About space.
About space.
About space.
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There are two most important spaces:
1.
The space of classical physics.
This is the space of Euclid / Descartes / Newton.
This space is "gravitational" and for Newton (and us) it is absolute
and time in this space is also absolute (for ua)
Changes in gravitational space are subject to Galilean transformations.
2.
SRT space, GRT and Quantum physicist.
This is the subject of Riemann / Minkowski space
a) SRT is a space without "gravity".
Space without "gravitaty" is a flat and empty vacuum.
c) in SRT, light (independent) moves in vacuum (cosmic) with a constant speed (c)
c) the mathematician Minkowski called vacuum (cosmic) absolute 4D inseparable spacetime.
This mathematical unity really exists only in a cosmic vacuum.
d) Changes in the cosmic vacuum are subject to Lorentz transformations.
3.
Einstein put in flat cosmic vacuum Gravity-body and said that near it (for example, the Sun)
the flat cosmic vacuum is bended and the light changes its rectilinear motion.
This is true in the local region of infinite cosmic vacuum.
4.
From the point of view of the cosmic vacuum, all gravity-space and gravity-time are local and relative.
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There are two most important spaces:
1.
The space of classical physics.
This is the space of Euclid / Descartes / Newton.
This space is "gravitational" and for Newton (and us) it is absolute
and time in this space is also absolute (for ua)
Changes in gravitational space are subject to Galilean transformations.
2.
SRT space, GRT and Quantum physicist.
This is the subject of Riemann / Minkowski space
a) SRT is a space without "gravity".
Space without "gravitaty" is a flat and empty vacuum.
c) in SRT, light (independent) moves in vacuum (cosmic) with a constant speed (c)
c) the mathematician Minkowski called vacuum (cosmic) absolute 4D inseparable spacetime.
This mathematical unity really exists only in a cosmic vacuum.
d) Changes in the cosmic vacuum are subject to Lorentz transformations.
3.
Einstein put in flat cosmic vacuum Gravity-body and said that near it (for example, the Sun)
the flat cosmic vacuum is bended and the light changes its rectilinear motion.
This is true in the local region of infinite cosmic vacuum.
4.
From the point of view of the cosmic vacuum, all gravity-space and gravity-time are local and relative.
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Re: About space.
Hermann Minkowski: "The views of space and time which I wish to lay before you
have sprung from the soil of experimental physics, and therein lies their strength.
They are radical. Henceforth, space by itself, and time by itself, are doomed
to fade away into mere shadows, and only a kind of union of the two
will preserve an independent reality.“ /1908/
Minkowski explained the unity of spacetime using the light cone:
have sprung from the soil of experimental physics, and therein lies their strength.
They are radical. Henceforth, space by itself, and time by itself, are doomed
to fade away into mere shadows, and only a kind of union of the two
will preserve an independent reality.“ /1908/
Minkowski explained the unity of spacetime using the light cone:
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Re: About space.
What was the question again?
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Re: About space.
The question is :
What is space made of ??
If space, or Einstein's spacetime, were made of no physical substance at all, then they simply would not exist at all, because to exist is to be made of something. Agreed?
If "something" is made of "nothing", then this "something" is "nothing" (does not exist). Period.
And, if space was made of some physical substance, then, in principle, we should be able to experimentally detect the physical existence of such substance, either directly or indirectly. Agreed?
So, what is space made of ??
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Do you recall how many socks and ballpoint pens you have lost during the course of your life? Where did they go?
Answer: there is a deep-state network run by aliens with mind-controlling space lasers which feeds them into black holes. Black hole evaporation then feeds them into dark energy networks which are undetectable to the Federal agencies charged with investigating lost socks and ballpoint pens.
I was reliable informed of this by my cousin's brother's nephew who knows somebody related by marriage to someone who once dated someone in the Department of Defense. Actually I'm not sure if it was the DoD; it might have been another department.
Answer: there is a deep-state network run by aliens with mind-controlling space lasers which feeds them into black holes. Black hole evaporation then feeds them into dark energy networks which are undetectable to the Federal agencies charged with investigating lost socks and ballpoint pens.
I was reliable informed of this by my cousin's brother's nephew who knows somebody related by marriage to someone who once dated someone in the Department of Defense. Actually I'm not sure if it was the DoD; it might have been another department.
Re: About space.
I think it's quite an attractive picture, in which everything that makes up our reality is based on energetic unevenness.
Let's say there was some kind of "big bang" that created an energy imbalance...
The smallest particle of matter known to us is ... a gamma quantum with 0 rest mass, the formula E=mc^2 also indicates energy, quantum theory still operates with energy levels. Time seems strongly related to the concept of inertia - because if there was no inertia, there would be no need to overcome it and changes in the state of matter could happen instantaneously and time would have no meaning, starting from the equations of relativity, where mass and time depend on speed, we see that for mass(inertia)=E/c^2 in the pursuit of infinity, time tends to stop.
Everything else is just a product of our perception, imagination and interpretation.
Accordingly, if our world is based on energetic imbalances, then it should be the case that with time these imbalances will level out and subside - along with our world.
So there may be a possibility that both in our world and we are energetic existences - like ghosts.
Let's say there was some kind of "big bang" that created an energy imbalance...
The smallest particle of matter known to us is ... a gamma quantum with 0 rest mass, the formula E=mc^2 also indicates energy, quantum theory still operates with energy levels. Time seems strongly related to the concept of inertia - because if there was no inertia, there would be no need to overcome it and changes in the state of matter could happen instantaneously and time would have no meaning, starting from the equations of relativity, where mass and time depend on speed, we see that for mass(inertia)=E/c^2 in the pursuit of infinity, time tends to stop.
Everything else is just a product of our perception, imagination and interpretation.
Accordingly, if our world is based on energetic imbalances, then it should be the case that with time these imbalances will level out and subside - along with our world.
So there may be a possibility that both in our world and we are energetic existences - like ghosts.
Re: About space.
1- Earth's space (atmosphere) consist of different molecules.Dr Jonathan Österman wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:11 am The question is :
What is space made of ??
So, what is space made of ??
2- Cosmic space (vacuum) made of Dirac’s “virtual particles”.
3- “virtual particles” appear in the Casimir effect, in the Lamb shift.
Re: About space.
And, 'nothing', in a sense, is, literally, 'something'.Dr Jonathan Österman wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:11 amThe question is :
What is space made of ??
If space, or Einstein's spacetime, were made of no physical substance at all, then they simply would not exist at all, because to exist is to be made of something. Agreed?
Obviously, if the 'space' word is referring to 'an area', then there has to exist areas of 'no matter'. Or, as some people might like to say, 'areas of nothing'.Dr Jonathan Österman wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:11 am If "something" is made of "nothing", then this "something" is "nothing" (does not exist). Period.
Yes.Dr Jonathan Österman wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:11 am And, if space was made of some physical substance, then, in principle, we should be able to experimentally detect the physical existence of such substance, either directly or indirectly. Agreed?
Well considering the irrefutable Fact that the Universe is not one solitary piece, particle, nor object of 'matter' this then means that there are separate pieces, particles, and/or objects of matter. Now, if the 'space', or distance, between these pieces, particles, or objects of matter want to be given a name or label, then the word 'space' would seem to be very appropriate.
Now, what these 'different areas of space' are made up of, exactly, then this would depend on what 'area' is one talking about and referring to, exactly.
Obviously, some areas are made up of physical substance/s, while other areas are made up of absolutely no physical substances.
Re: About space.
But why say this?
Who and/or what does the 'us' word here refer to, exactly?
Because, to 'others' the smallest particle of matter is different.
It is this type of completely over-complicating what is essentially Truly simple why these people, 'back then', were taking so, so long to come to comprehend and understand what is actually happening and occurring HERE, NOW.nemos wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:19 pm a gamma quantum with 0 rest mass, the formula E=mc^2 also indicates energy, quantum theory still operates with energy levels. Time seems strongly related to the concept of inertia - because if there was no inertia, there would be no need to overcome it and changes in the state of matter could happen instantaneously and time would have no meaning, starting from the equations of relativity, where mass and time depend on speed, we see that for mass(inertia)=E/c^2 in the pursuit of infinity, time tends to stop.
But, absolutely every thing is relative to the observer, even including the definitions of words like, for example, 'matter', 'space', and 'time'.
And, obviously, if one has or is using definitions of words that do not fit in perfectly what actually happens and occurs, actually is, was, and will be, then they will take 'some time' to learn, recognize, see, understand, and know what the actual Truth of things is here, exactly.
This is all only depended upon 'if' some things, right?nemos wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:19 pm Accordingly, if our world is based on energetic imbalances, then it should be the case that with time these imbalances will level out and subside - along with our world.
So there may be a possibility that both in our world and we are energetic existences - like ghosts.
Re: About space.
How is the word 'space' here, in this thread, being defined, exactly?socrattus wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:23 am1- Earth's space (atmosphere) consist of different molecules.Dr Jonathan Österman wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:11 am The question is :
What is space made of ??
So, what is space made of ??
2- Cosmic space (vacuum) made of Dirac’s “virtual particles”.
3- “virtual particles” appear in the Casimir effect, in the Lamb shift.
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Re: About space.
Can Hilbert Space be applied to the physical space? Or is it just for the conceptual space only?
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Can you define Hilbert space without looking it up?Zarathustra wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:22 am Can Hilbert Space be applied to the physical space? Or is it just for the conceptual space only?
Re: About space.
The three dimensions are the microscopic traditional "gravity", which is the cube, and it is also the microscopic space, that is, the space in traditional concepts such as Newton's classical mechanics; the fourth dimension is time and light; the fifth dimension is darkness and dark energy, that is, general relativity and quantum mechanics, etc. The macroscopic space of the universe in the concept; compared to the three-dimensional, the six-dimensional is the "huge gravitational pull of dark matter" on a macroscopic level.
The huge gravitational pull of dark matter must affect the material world. The material world dominates our emotions and desires, so there is another famous saying: personality determines Destiny, the six-dimensional dark matter refers to the collective future tense of the universe, the five-dimensional dark energy refers to the collective past tense of the universe, the fourth dimension refers to the collective present tense of the universe, the three dimensions correspond to the individual future tense of the six dimensions, and the two dimensions correspond to the individual present tense of the four dimensions. , one dimension corresponds to the five dimensions, and is the past tense of the individual.
The huge gravitational pull of dark matter must affect the material world. The material world dominates our emotions and desires, so there is another famous saying: personality determines Destiny, the six-dimensional dark matter refers to the collective future tense of the universe, the five-dimensional dark energy refers to the collective past tense of the universe, the fourth dimension refers to the collective present tense of the universe, the three dimensions correspond to the individual future tense of the six dimensions, and the two dimensions correspond to the individual present tense of the four dimensions. , one dimension corresponds to the five dimensions, and is the past tense of the individual.
Re: About space.
billssw wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:25 pm The three dimensions are the microscopic traditional "gravity", which is the cube, and it is also the microscopic space, that is, the space in traditional concepts such as Newton's classical mechanics; the fourth dimension is time and light; the fifth dimension is darkness and dark energy, that is, general relativity and quantum mechanics, etc. The macroscopic space of the universe in the concept; compared to the three-dimensional, the six-dimensional is the "huge gravitational pull of dark matter" on a macroscopic level.
The huge gravitational pull of dark matter must affect the material world. The material world dominates our emotions and desires, so there is another famous saying: personality determines Destiny, the six-dimensional dark matter refers to the collective future tense of the universe, the five-dimensional dark energy refers to the collective past tense of the universe, the fourth dimension refers to the collective present tense of the universe, the three dimensions correspond to the individual future tense of the six dimensions, and the two dimensions correspond to the individual present tense of the four dimensions. , one dimension corresponds to the five dimensions, and is the past tense of the individual.
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Re: About space.
socrat44 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 1:51 pm About space.
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There are two most important spaces:
1.
The space of classical physics.
This is the space of Euclid / Descartes / Newton.
This space is "gravitational" and for Newton (and us) it is absolute
and time in this space is also absolute (for ua)
Changes in gravitational space are subject to Galilean transformations.
2.
SRT space, GRT and Quantum physicist.
This is the subject of Riemann / Minkowski space
a) SRT is a space without "gravity".
Space without "gravitaty" is a flat and empty vacuum.
c) in SRT, light (independent) moves in vacuum (cosmic) with a constant speed (c)
c) the mathematician Minkowski called vacuum (cosmic) absolute 4D inseparable spacetime.
This mathematical unity really exists only in a cosmic vacuum.
d) Changes in the cosmic vacuum are subject to Lorentz transformations.
3.
Einstein put in flat cosmic vacuum Gravity-body and said that near it (for example, the Sun)
the flat cosmic vacuum is bended and the light changes its rectilinear motion.
This is true in the local region of infinite cosmic vacuum.
4.
From the point of view of the cosmic vacuum, all gravity-space and gravity-time are local and relative.
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As mentioned above, if time is two-dimensional and four-dimensional, and space is one-dimensional and five-dimensional, then of course space-time is an indivisible whole, because our classical universe is composed of one to six dimensions.