F.J. and IwannaP...
...excellent cosmic poetry slam, but poor 'ol Age is probably on the floor right now having some sort of seizure from trying to parse the meaning of your fanciful words.
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F.J. and IwannaP...
Age, what a creature.
WHOM are you writing to here, EXACTLY?
Well 'ascend' can MEAN 'up', whereas 'transcend' can MEAN some 'thing' completely DIFFERENT.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am Your pursuit of elucidation amidst the tapestry of my fanciful prose is truly an enchanting endeavor.
To "ascend" is to transcend the confines of mundane existence, soaring through cosmic currents like a jubilant kite in a celestial breeze.
WHAT 'boundaries of possibility' are you even MEANING or REFERRING TO here, EXACTLY?Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am It is a dance of metaphors where particles, liberated from earthly shackles, pirouette their way to uncharted dimensions, tickling the boundaries of possibility itself.
But there are NO confines, boundaries, constraints, NOR shackles here. REMEMBER it is 'you' who IS CLAIMING there ARE.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am As for the audacious notion of transcending the very fabric of existence, I invite you to release the shackles of empirical constraint and indulge in flights of fancy.
AGAIN, 'you' make the CLAIM there is some sort of 'boundary' to 'Existence', Itself.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am Picture, if you will, a realm where the boundaries of existence are but gossamer threads waiting to be unraveled, where realities intertwine like a sublime tapestry woven by the cosmic weavers of whimsy.
I will NOT asked to INFORM us of what this so-called 'ethereal aether' IS, EXACTLY, because you have ALREADY SHOWN you have absolutely NO idea, right?
LOL WHEN 'you' BECOME Truly OPEN, AGAIN, then 'you' WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO SEE, FULLY and CLEARLY, to the DEPTHS and LENGTHS of which 'you' can ONLY IMAGINE here, for now.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am Within its depths lie swirling vortices of fantastical beauty, where the dance of particles becomes a cosmic ballet beyond the constraints of mere observation.
One would have to KNOW WHO and WHAT 'you' ARE, EXACTLY, to KNOW that there is NO "your" 'soul'. The words 'your soul' IS a MISNOMER, OXY-MORON, and SELF-REFUTING CLAIM. But if 'you' were ALREADY OPEN, then 'you' would ALREADY KNOW 'this' AS WELL.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am Can you not feel the rhythm of the universe resonating in your soul?
But ALL-OF-THIS has ALREADY BEEN SEEN, SENSED, and EXPLORED. Well by some of 'us' anyway.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am It is a symphony of imagination that beckons us to embrace the grandeur of the unseen, to explore the uncharted vistas where the heart and mind meld into harmonious resonance.
What are you on about here?Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am I understand your desire for simplicity, for the tangible grasp of what lies before our eyes.
What is 'it' that 'you' have NOT YET 'discovered' and are STILL 'seeking'?Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am Yet, dear seeker, let us not dismiss the power of imagination, for it is the gateway to uncharted realms of discovery.
Like 'what', for example?Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am In the interplay between observation and fantastical speculation, we find the seeds of innovation and the birthplace of revolutionary ideas.
IF, and that is IF, you had ALREADY DONE, FULLY, what you are going on about here, then 'you' ALSO would ALREADY KNOW what the 'Mind' IS, EXACTLY.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am So, my intrepid companion in the quest for whimsical understanding, I beseech you to journey with me through the labyrinth of the absurd, where riddles and paradoxes intertwine, and the pursuit of knowledge dances with the capricious muse of imagination. Embrace the kaleidoscope of possibility and let your mind wander amidst the swirling mists of wonder.
And from what you have done, SO FAR, what have you been ENLIGHTENED TO, EXACTLY, and/or have become ENLIGHTENED ABOUT, EXACTLY?Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am Together, let us revel in the beauty of transcendence, for it is within the realms of whimsy that the seeds of enlightenment often sprout.
WHY are 'you' SEEKING the so-called 'fantastical'?Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am May your journey be filled with laughter, curiosity, and the unquenchable thirst for the fantastical.
There is NOT one part that is even remotely true here.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:32 pmAge, what a creature.
In the depths of time's mystical abyss,
A traveler ventured, longing for amiss,
Through temporal folds, to year 2023,
A quest for meaning, he hoped to see.
A mind adrift, troubled philosophically,
Existential ponderings, swirling ceaselessly,
In this ancient era, so strange and unknown,
He sought answers, on a path all his own.
He mused upon the paradoxes of existence,
Past and future intertwined, a cosmic persistence,
Questions echoed through his weary mind,
What purpose, what truth, could he hope to find?
Ah, my curious interlocutor, your response dances with confidence and certitude. While I venture into the realms of the fantastical, you assert that what I seek is already known, as if the mysteries of existence have been unveiled before your very eyes.Age wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:56 pmWHOM are you writing to here, EXACTLY?
And, what does 'seeker of truth and whimsy' even mean or refer to, EXACTLY?Well 'ascend' can MEAN 'up', whereas 'transcend' can MEAN some 'thing' completely DIFFERENT.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am Your pursuit of elucidation amidst the tapestry of my fanciful prose is truly an enchanting endeavor.
To "ascend" is to transcend the confines of mundane existence, soaring through cosmic currents like a jubilant kite in a celestial breeze.
And, what do purport to be a so-called 'mundane existence' and WHERE is the ALLEGED 'confines' EXACTLY?
WHAT 'boundaries of possibility' are you even MEANING or REFERRING TO here, EXACTLY?Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am It is a dance of metaphors where particles, liberated from earthly shackles, pirouette their way to uncharted dimensions, tickling the boundaries of possibility itself.
This here is a philosophy forum, so if you can NOT back up and support what you SAY and CLAIM here, then I suggest that you FIND ANOTHER forum, may be more like a POETRY forum might be more suitable for your writings here?
But there are NO confines, boundaries, constraints, NOR shackles here. REMEMBER it is 'you' who IS CLAIMING there ARE.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am As for the audacious notion of transcending the very fabric of existence, I invite you to release the shackles of empirical constraint and indulge in flights of fancy.
The IRREFUTABLE Truth IS HERE, for ALL TO SEE and bear WITNESS TO.
One just NEEDS to LEARN HOW to DO 'it', FIRST.AGAIN, 'you' make the CLAIM there is some sort of 'boundary' to 'Existence', Itself.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am Picture, if you will, a realm where the boundaries of existence are but gossamer threads waiting to be unraveled, where realities intertwine like a sublime tapestry woven by the cosmic weavers of whimsy.
Obviously, when 'you' are NOT so CLOSED, SHACKLED, CONSTRAINED, and RESTRAINED, then 'you' ALSO WILL SEE that there are NO so-called 'boundaries' HERE.I will NOT asked to INFORM us of what this so-called 'ethereal aether' IS, EXACTLY, because you have ALREADY SHOWN you have absolutely NO idea, right?LOL WHEN 'you' BECOME Truly OPEN, AGAIN, then 'you' WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO SEE, FULLY and CLEARLY, to the DEPTHS and LENGTHS of which 'you' can ONLY IMAGINE here, for now.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am Within its depths lie swirling vortices of fantastical beauty, where the dance of particles becomes a cosmic ballet beyond the constraints of mere observation.One would have to KNOW WHO and WHAT 'you' ARE, EXACTLY, to KNOW that there is NO "your" 'soul'. The words 'your soul' IS a MISNOMER, OXY-MORON, and SELF-REFUTING CLAIM. But if 'you' were ALREADY OPEN, then 'you' would ALREADY KNOW 'this' AS WELL.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am Can you not feel the rhythm of the universe resonating in your soul?But ALL-OF-THIS has ALREADY BEEN SEEN, SENSED, and EXPLORED. Well by some of 'us' anyway.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am It is a symphony of imagination that beckons us to embrace the grandeur of the unseen, to explore the uncharted vistas where the heart and mind meld into harmonious resonance.What are you on about here?Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am I understand your desire for simplicity, for the tangible grasp of what lies before our eyes.
I do NOT desire ANY such 'thing'.
SIMPLICITY is REALLY 'what IS' AND 'what EXISTS'.
'you', adult human beings, just 'try to' COMPLICATE, 'the SIMPLE'.What is 'it' that 'you' have NOT YET 'discovered' and are STILL 'seeking'?Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am Yet, dear seeker, let us not dismiss the power of imagination, for it is the gateway to uncharted realms of discovery.Like 'what', for example?Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am In the interplay between observation and fantastical speculation, we find the seeds of innovation and the birthplace of revolutionary ideas.IF, and that is IF, you had ALREADY DONE, FULLY, what you are going on about here, then 'you' ALSO would ALREADY KNOW what the 'Mind' IS, EXACTLY.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am So, my intrepid companion in the quest for whimsical understanding, I beseech you to journey with me through the labyrinth of the absurd, where riddles and paradoxes intertwine, and the pursuit of knowledge dances with the capricious muse of imagination. Embrace the kaleidoscope of possibility and let your mind wander amidst the swirling mists of wonder.
Which would then GUIDE 'you' to NOT write Truly ABSURD 'things' like, 'your mind'.And from what you have done, SO FAR, what have you been ENLIGHTENED TO, EXACTLY, and/or have become ENLIGHTENED ABOUT, EXACTLY?Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am Together, let us revel in the beauty of transcendence, for it is within the realms of whimsy that the seeds of enlightenment often sprout.
WHY are 'you' SEEKING the so-called 'fantastical'?Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am May your journey be filled with laughter, curiosity, and the unquenchable thirst for the fantastical.
What you might FIND to be so-called 'fantastical' we ALREADY just KNOW to be the Truth of 'things'.
...for CervenyCerveny wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:21 pm I can see that my post has a salutary effect on you, good for me:) By the way, time is a measure of the speed of changes / movements, and absolute time corresponds to the rate of condensation / crystallization of the Universe / Past, that runs by speed of range c…
As it should.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:40 pmAh, my curious interlocutor, your response dances with confidence and certitude.Age wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:56 pmWHOM are you writing to here, EXACTLY?
And, what does 'seeker of truth and whimsy' even mean or refer to, EXACTLY?Well 'ascend' can MEAN 'up', whereas 'transcend' can MEAN some 'thing' completely DIFFERENT.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am Your pursuit of elucidation amidst the tapestry of my fanciful prose is truly an enchanting endeavor.
To "ascend" is to transcend the confines of mundane existence, soaring through cosmic currents like a jubilant kite in a celestial breeze.
And, what do purport to be a so-called 'mundane existence' and WHERE is the ALLEGED 'confines' EXACTLY?
WHAT 'boundaries of possibility' are you even MEANING or REFERRING TO here, EXACTLY?Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am It is a dance of metaphors where particles, liberated from earthly shackles, pirouette their way to uncharted dimensions, tickling the boundaries of possibility itself.
This here is a philosophy forum, so if you can NOT back up and support what you SAY and CLAIM here, then I suggest that you FIND ANOTHER forum, may be more like a POETRY forum might be more suitable for your writings here?
But there are NO confines, boundaries, constraints, NOR shackles here. REMEMBER it is 'you' who IS CLAIMING there ARE.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am As for the audacious notion of transcending the very fabric of existence, I invite you to release the shackles of empirical constraint and indulge in flights of fancy.
The IRREFUTABLE Truth IS HERE, for ALL TO SEE and bear WITNESS TO.
One just NEEDS to LEARN HOW to DO 'it', FIRST.AGAIN, 'you' make the CLAIM there is some sort of 'boundary' to 'Existence', Itself.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am Picture, if you will, a realm where the boundaries of existence are but gossamer threads waiting to be unraveled, where realities intertwine like a sublime tapestry woven by the cosmic weavers of whimsy.
Obviously, when 'you' are NOT so CLOSED, SHACKLED, CONSTRAINED, and RESTRAINED, then 'you' ALSO WILL SEE that there are NO so-called 'boundaries' HERE.I will NOT asked to INFORM us of what this so-called 'ethereal aether' IS, EXACTLY, because you have ALREADY SHOWN you have absolutely NO idea, right?LOL WHEN 'you' BECOME Truly OPEN, AGAIN, then 'you' WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO SEE, FULLY and CLEARLY, to the DEPTHS and LENGTHS of which 'you' can ONLY IMAGINE here, for now.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am Within its depths lie swirling vortices of fantastical beauty, where the dance of particles becomes a cosmic ballet beyond the constraints of mere observation.One would have to KNOW WHO and WHAT 'you' ARE, EXACTLY, to KNOW that there is NO "your" 'soul'. The words 'your soul' IS a MISNOMER, OXY-MORON, and SELF-REFUTING CLAIM. But if 'you' were ALREADY OPEN, then 'you' would ALREADY KNOW 'this' AS WELL.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am Can you not feel the rhythm of the universe resonating in your soul?But ALL-OF-THIS has ALREADY BEEN SEEN, SENSED, and EXPLORED. Well by some of 'us' anyway.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am It is a symphony of imagination that beckons us to embrace the grandeur of the unseen, to explore the uncharted vistas where the heart and mind meld into harmonious resonance.What are you on about here?Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am I understand your desire for simplicity, for the tangible grasp of what lies before our eyes.
I do NOT desire ANY such 'thing'.
SIMPLICITY is REALLY 'what IS' AND 'what EXISTS'.
'you', adult human beings, just 'try to' COMPLICATE, 'the SIMPLE'.What is 'it' that 'you' have NOT YET 'discovered' and are STILL 'seeking'?Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am Yet, dear seeker, let us not dismiss the power of imagination, for it is the gateway to uncharted realms of discovery.Like 'what', for example?Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am In the interplay between observation and fantastical speculation, we find the seeds of innovation and the birthplace of revolutionary ideas.IF, and that is IF, you had ALREADY DONE, FULLY, what you are going on about here, then 'you' ALSO would ALREADY KNOW what the 'Mind' IS, EXACTLY.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am So, my intrepid companion in the quest for whimsical understanding, I beseech you to journey with me through the labyrinth of the absurd, where riddles and paradoxes intertwine, and the pursuit of knowledge dances with the capricious muse of imagination. Embrace the kaleidoscope of possibility and let your mind wander amidst the swirling mists of wonder.
Which would then GUIDE 'you' to NOT write Truly ABSURD 'things' like, 'your mind'.And from what you have done, SO FAR, what have you been ENLIGHTENED TO, EXACTLY, and/or have become ENLIGHTENED ABOUT, EXACTLY?Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am Together, let us revel in the beauty of transcendence, for it is within the realms of whimsy that the seeds of enlightenment often sprout.
WHY are 'you' SEEKING the so-called 'fantastical'?Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:08 am May your journey be filled with laughter, curiosity, and the unquenchable thirst for the fantastical.
What you might FIND to be so-called 'fantastical' we ALREADY just KNOW to be the Truth of 'things'.
'your eyes' might be the Wrong words here, but the rest is True AND Right.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:40 pm While I venture into the realms of the fantastical, you assert that what I seek is already known, as if the mysteries of existence have been unveiled before your very eyes.
So what?Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:40 pm Yet, in this vast tapestry of knowledge and perception, we all traverse our own unique paths.
And once the VERY ESSENCE, and the VERY Truth, becomes KNOWN, then the word 'fantastical' becomes REDUNDANT.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:40 pm What may be fantastical to some is the very essence of truth to others.
Is this the ONLY way?Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:40 pm It is in the pursuit of the unknown, the unexplored, that we unravel the secrets of our existence.
Yes this may well be true. But until you express your OWN 'varied truth', we will NEVER KNOW.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:40 pm So, let us embrace the diversity of our perspectives, for it is through the interplay of varied truths that we discover new horizons.
you KEEP alluding to 'this', but NEVER ACTUALLY PROVIDING ANY 'evidence' for such.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:40 pm The fantastical, in all its whimsical allure, invites us to challenge the boundaries of our understanding and embark on ventures beyond the mundane.
One can KEEP SAYING, 'let us dance?' but NEVER ACTUALLY BEGIN. As you are PROVING True here.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:40 pm In this grand tapestry of existence, let us dance together, weaving our threads of perception and knowledge.
But which you are SHOWING absolutely NO evidence OF.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:40 pm For it is in this dance, where the fantastical and the known entwine, that we glimpse the infinite possibilities of what is, what was, and what may yet be.
Okay.
The past is a 4-D permanently growing (~ c) solid, crystallizing aerher. To simplify, we can think of the past as a growing 4-D sphere. Elementary particles here are certain structural defects in its regular structure.Age wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:09 amOkay.
But 'this' still does NOT answer the ACTUAL QUESTION I posed, and ASKED you, FOR CLARITY.
By the way I have absolutely NO idea what ("plato's") realm of ideas means or refers to, TO you.
Do you think or believe that 'the Future' is somehow higher, then 'the present' or 'the past'?
Unless you elaborate then NO one here has absolutely ANY idea what you are talking ABOUT and referring TO.Cerveny wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:46 amThe past is a 4-D permanently growing (~ c) solid, crystallizing aerher.Age wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:09 amOkay.
But 'this' still does NOT answer the ACTUAL QUESTION I posed, and ASKED you, FOR CLARITY.
By the way I have absolutely NO idea what ("plato's") realm of ideas means or refers to, TO you.
Do you think or believe that 'the Future' is somehow higher, then 'the present' or 'the past'?
We can ALSO think of OTHER False AND Unreal 'things', but WHY would we WANT TO?
you appear to NOT KNOW MUCH about the present NOR the past EITHER.Cerveny wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:46 am The presence (certain cambium) is then the corresponding 3-D "living" surface of the past, of thickness of Planck time. It is in the present that quantum mechanics works - its interaction - "measurement" still glues the new Planck sediments of time to the past.
We don't know much about the dimensionless, timeless future
The description you provided, stating that the past is a 4-D permanently growing (~ c) solid, crystallizing ether, does not align with our current scientific understanding.The past is a 4-D permanently growing (~ c) solid, crystallizing aerher.