another problem of evil

[Harbal]

For example, The Master of the Universe who breaks under torture will have a new self-concept.

The example you give is an example of senselessness; is that what you intended?

[Harbal]

an actually distinct ontological force or even creature or alliance that goes against The Good or God

That's the definition that makes me avoid using the word.

[Iwannaplato]

an actually distinct ontological force or even creature or alliance that goes against The Good or God

That's the definition that makes me avoid using the word.

I doubt you'll have a big loss of options: bad person, terrible person, terrible act, unpleasant company, not someone to leave alone with the kids, horrific act....

There are less laden options.

I once had to deal with a narcissist and attendant flying monkeys and did use the word evil sometimes in my horror and exasperation. But I'm not claiming I came in contact with an ontological force. I see language as also expressive.

The term ‘flying monkeys’ is another way of saying ‘abuse by proxy’ or having someone else do the bidding of in this case a narcissist. The term flying monkey was coined after the flying monkeys in the Wizard of Oz that were under the spell of the Wicked Witch of the East, to do her bidding against Dorothy and her friends.

A tangent, but I love that term. I never liked the Wizard of Oz much, but what a nice metaphor.

[Greatest I am]

Somewhere, sometime, someone was born just in time be covered in lava. Mysterious ways indeed.

Do you believe in Gaia?

Doubtful, but nature would have to be a conscious entity for us to see evil intent.

Hint. Mens Rea.

Can nature be accused of doing evil?

Without an evil intent, there is no evil.

Gaia did not gain the pleasure evil acts pay and would not do as you think of her. No that she is real.

Regards
DL

[Greatest I am]

Well, according to IC the newly born infant either deserved it or benefitted from it. God only does things according to a benevolent "plan".

Good old free will------ to be ********* and park under a volcano.

Look at our coast lines and how many humans we humans will knowingly collectively kill, ------ by not cleaning up our ecological act.

How highs the water, momma?

Who is more ********

Regards
DL

[Greatest I am]

We all use the word, "evil", but I have no idea what we mean by it.

Yes you do.

Evil is whatever you do not like.

Good is what you like. Right?

Gen3;22 Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil;
1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good

Evil does have a good side as far as humans are concerned. It is the result of our competing, but without competing we would go extinct.

I have to venerate, tolerate and create evil, as well as good.

So do you, you evil person, just not the really evil stuff. No Inquisitions or Jihads.

Regards
DL

[Greatest I am]

We need a new 'religion' as it were.

Some scholars are pointing to a more universalist ideologyed Gnostic Christianity, atheist churches and Laïcité as the future.

I do not see the organization as of yet but do see the thinking changing towards the left as the supernatural looses it's sexiness.

Regards
DL

[Harbal]

We all use the word, "evil", but I have no idea what we mean by it.

Yes you do.

Evil is whatever you do not like.

I don't like baked beans.

[Gary Childress]

What deceit and ugliness has pervaded before me. Who is responsible for this? Is that you FlannelJesus? Who is putting other people's quote with my name attached to them. I will no longer be nice to liars and deceitful people. I have tried to be tolerant. But you push too far.

[Advocate]

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Somewhere, sometime, someone was born just in time be covered in lava. Mysterious ways indeed.
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Do you believe in Gaia?

Doubtful, but nature would have to be a conscious entity for us to see evil intent.

Hint. Mens Rea.

Can nature be accused of doing evil?

Without an evil intent, there is no evil.

Gaia did not gain the pleasure evil acts pay and would not do as you think of her. No that she is real.

Regards
DL
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The Gaia hypothesis is either that the Earth is a sentient being (bullshit) or that the Earth's ecosystem can be understood as a giant organism (metaphorical, true).

"Good" has the misfortune in English of opposing both bad (effect) and evil (intent).

[Walker]

For example, The Master of the Universe who breaks under torture will have a new self-concept.

The example you give is an example of senselessness; is that what you intended?

It's an example referencing the sentence that preceded it in the original context.

[Harbal]

For example, The Master of the Universe who breaks under torture will have a new self-concept.

The example you give is an example of senselessness; is that what you intended?

It's an example referencing the sentence that preceded it in the original context.

But the sentence that preceded it didn't make any sense either;

"Those who don't die in order to remain consistant with their self-concept shall be born to a new self-concept."

[Iwannaplato]

We all use the word, "evil", but I have no idea what we mean by it.

Yes you do.

Evil is whatever you do not like.

I don't like baked beans.

In 1996, Amelia Pond cooked baked beans for the newly-regenerated Eleventh Doctor, but he spat them out in disgust, declaring, "Beans are evil. Bad, bad beans." (TV: The Eleventh Hour)

Heinz is releasing hash browns filled with baked beans.
“Who asked for this evil?” said one tweet.

[Harbal]

Yes you do.

Evil is whatever you do not like.

I don't like baked beans.

In 1996, Amelia Pond cooked baked beans for the newly-regenerated Eleventh Doctor, but he spat them out in disgust, declaring, "Beans are evil. Bad, bad beans." (TV: The Eleventh Hour)

Heinz is releasing hash browns filled with baked beans.
“Who asked for this evil?” said one tweet.

If baked beans are evil, it should say so on the label.

[Iwannaplato]

If baked beans are evil, it should say so on the label.

Do you think Lucifer wears a name tag 'Evil'? Nay. It is we who must suss these things out.