Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:41 pm
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:18 am
I'd like to have a conversation with God. Can someone please point me to where or how I can summon him?
Yes.
But you're going to have to be sincere. He doesn't do "parlor tricks for cynics."
And you KNOW this HOW, EXACTLY?
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:41 pm
He's not "summonable," either.
So, a person asks if someone can please point that person to where or how they can summon God? 'you', "immanuel can", answer, 'Yes', but then go on to say and write, God is NOT 'summonable'.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:41 pm
It's He who controls the agenda and timing of things...no human agency. You need to be willing to take time, and learn to listen. And you need to persist.
But WHY 'persist', if, according to you, you have NO control over things here?
Also, God CERTAINLY does NOT and will NOT help those who continually 'persist' in Wrong or Incorrect ways, anyway. In fact, doing the same thing over and over, or just 'persisting' with the same things, while expecting to get different results it is said is a sign of insanity.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:41 pm
But you can, if you want, open a conversation with Him. It's through a thing you'll have heard of before, called "prayer." But I don't mean rote prayers from a misguided ritual childhood, or something like that...I mean an honest conversation, composed of both saying what is true and being willing to listen.
WHEN are 'you' EVER going to start being Honest "yourself" "immanuel can"? 'you' STILL MISHEAR that God is a "He".
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:41 pm
Set aside five minutes at the start of your day. And for the sake of the exercise, suppose maybe He's there and listening. That's what's called "faith," and without it, you get nothing.
I would NOT be SO ASSUMING here if 'I' was 'you', "immanuel can".
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:41 pm
You have to be prepared to give God the benefit of the doubt...if only a mustard-seed sized benefit. It will be enough.
Talk about a great example so far of being TOLD things and just ASSUMING or BELIEVING those things to be true, without EVER garnishing ANY ACTUAL PROOF, FIRST.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:41 pm
Talk. Tell the truth. Spill it all out, and say exactly where you've been, and where you are now. Ask for help. Don't lie about where you're at, or make it "nice" or fudge the details...He knows it all anyway. What matters is your attitude to Him. That's what He cares about.
Do you KNOW WHY 'you' are SO DELUSIONAL here "immanuel can"?
If no, then maybe you could follow parts of your OWN advice here.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:41 pm
So talk. Then listen.
For example, ask questions like, 'WHY do 'i' ACTUALLY call 'you' a "He", especially when there is absolutely NO evidence NOR proof for this?'
THEN LISTEN for THE ANSWER "immanuel can", and IF you REALLY are Truthful and Honest here, then let 'us' KNOW what THE ANSWER IS.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:41 pm
And don't do it just once; turn it into a daily thing, and go for a month or two. And see what it does to you, and to your life.
Have you done this "immanuel can"?
If yes, then what ACTUALLY HAPPENED?
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:41 pm
That's my most helpful advice for you.
So, someone asks to be pointed to where or how they can summon God, and your so-called 'most helpful advice' is, 'You can't, as God is NOT summonable, and, God controls the agenda and the timing of things.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:41 pm
I could say more, but without this basic, honest conversation with God, the rest doesn't matter.
But what you have said so far already does NOT matter either. As what you SAY and CLAIM here PROVES you have NOT had ANY REAL NOR MEANINGFUL contact and connection with God, well NOT YET anyway.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:41 pm
So you'll have to decide whether you want it badly enough to do it, or not. You just won't get there until you're willing to do what it takes.
In other words "immanuel can" wants you to become just ANOTHER so-called "christian", FIRST.