Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:27 am
Dimebag wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 11:35 am
Do you think there is any use in teachings which attempt to point to what is already here which might be overlooked? Or is it purely down to the right causes and conditions in ones life, and divine luck? For me, it was simple mindfulness which lead me to this path, and then eventually realising this path actually led back to me and to what is. I don’t think they are completely useless, but maybe also not completely effective. Though some are anti productive, many are necessary for many people who don’t happen to have such realisations through luck or chance.
Regarding meditation into the nature of self. Any use is a useless use. There's nothing to see but the seeing that cannot be seen, the observer never changes, what is looked upon is changing all the time, so the observer itself cannot be overlooked. The observer is the looking that can never be looked upon, the observer can only be known to be that which never changes, and that which never changes is unknowable by definition. And that's the divine paradox.
To question the 'sense of separation' ( the individual self ) which is an illusion, is to inquire into the nature of being.
This self inquiry turns out to be a myth. It goes nowhere, and can only lead one back to the one who questions. There are no answers to that one question simply because if there were an answer, questions would never arise. So here there can only be questions, which could only be 'one question' of which would contain all our answers.
The 'sense of self' is a known finite appearance within what is this unknowable reality. It is impossible to know the underlying fundamental nature of the universe ( the ground of all being ) because it is Infinite and the mind which is 'thought' cannot hold anything Infinite.
'Thought' is finite, and 'thought' is the creator of the thinker.
Infinite Consciousness cannot reveal anything about the nature of existence because it is not manifested and that which is manifested (known) cannot understand the unmanifested. ( the known know nothing in this context )
'The World as Will and Representation' - Schopenhauer came to the conclusion that our senses actually hide absolute reality from us, so that we can make sense of the world. In reality the whole world is an undifferentiated 'thing in and of itself. This is very similar to what was mentioned about the observer being unchanged and is a conclusion Schopenhauer reached independently, though several religious traditions like Advaita and Buddhism have been saying the same for years.
Nothing in this world can be reversed. Or rehearsed. You can't actually take back anything that you ever do. Therefore, it is obvious that No one knows anything. This is both freeing and terrifying at the same time.
All that does apparently seem to be known is through memory. Knowledge is memory, which is dead stuff. And dead stuff knows nothing. Therefore, knowledge can only point to the illusory nature of existence.