That is terrifyingly true.
Feel the fear and do it anyway, at least we get some sleep between waking intervals. Sleeping has been my only sanctuary. I could literally sleep forever, if I had the choice.
That is terrifyingly true.
Yes, I like to sleep a lot too.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:11 amThat is terrifyingly true.
Feel the fear and do it anyway, at least we get some sleep between waking intervals. Sleeping has been my only sanctuary. I could literally sleep forever, if I had the choice.
I do not believe you. If you really do no think it is worth living then you have several solutions, yet you have chosen not to take them.
People can get a lot of meaning from their children, others do no. As a rubric parenthood is neither positive nor negative.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 12:02 pmI think the true winners in the game of life and evolution are those who don't procreate. The losers are the ones who doom their children to necessarily participate in this hell hole. There is no God. The world is devoid of purpose and meaning other than what people fantasize as purpose and meaning.
Drugs lose effectiveness over time. I've been on some pretty powerful ones since I was 25. Increasing dosages usually just increases side effects along with it. Not everyone in this world is blessed with good mental health. Perhaps those who tell others to "be thankful" should start with themselves and thank God or nature (or whatever they believe in) that they do not have a severe mental illness. It's a whole different world from the inside. The day I had my first psychosis it changed me overnight from a spirited person to little more than a vegetable. Look up "negative symptoms of schizophrenia" and it'll tell you a little of what the severely mentally ill go through. And mental illness is a life sentence, there is no cure, only management of symptoms.Sculptor wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:18 pmI do not believe you. If you really do no think it is worth living then you have several solutions, yet you have chosen not to take them.
There are various remedies for mental illness, some more effective than others. Dietary change, exercise, volunteering in good works, or even happy pills.
My view is that, although mental states are also chemical/physical brain states that can be altered by drugs but also by simple human praxis, either formal like CRT or filling your life with things you consider worthy.
I have an interesting story. My younger half-sister began to have mental problems over 10 years ago. It got so bad that eventually her father, my former step-father, had her committed within the California mental health system. And she went to various facilities over the years. I always stayed in touch with her, by phone since I live outside the country. She veered in and out of coherency but for the most part was living in delusions of various sorts. The odd thing, it actually made it easier to keep in touch with her I admit, was that her delusions were always upbeat and spectacularly grandiose. Like she was in charge of the facility and actually ran it. That she was in a marvelous, healthy marriage and had various children (which she did not have).Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 4:43 pmDrugs lose effectiveness over time. I've been on some pretty powerful ones since I was 25. Increasing dosages usually just increases side effects along with it. Not everyone in this world is blessed with good mental health. Perhaps those who tell others to "be thankful" should start with themselves and thank God or nature (or whatever they believe in) that they do not have a severe mental illness. It's a whole different world from the inside. The day I had my first psychosis it changed me overnight from a spirited person to little more than a vegetable. Look up "negative symptoms of schizophrenia" and it'll tell you a little of what the severely mentally ill go through. And mental illness is a life sentence, there is no cure, only management of symptoms.
Ultimately there's nothing anyone can do for the mentally ill other than watch us decline. Of course, everyone declines over time, such is life. Life is a terminal illness but most look away from the abyss because they can. Those of us who are doomed to have seen the abyss just seem to suffer eternally.
(I would not have, and don't have, any idea what to recommend. But one thing I feel confident I can fairly recommend: get support and don't remain in isolation.)That though the radiance which was once so bright be now forever taken from my sight. Though nothing can bring back the hour of splendor in the grass, glory in the flower. We will grieve not, rather find strength in what remains behind.
The essence of life says it is worth living. In fact, the essence of life is relatively immortal and is common to all life forms. The difference between life forms, is their forms, which is a result of adaptation to niche environments for where a new structure is created form fellows. The worth of living to the essence of life is a continuation in being, thus, the common fear of death among all organisms. So, life can be worth living even after the life essence takes on identity from its interaction within the environment, this is an intellectual occurrence and serves the essence of life in it determination to stay in being. It seems to me that if life is worth living on both levels, then one is having a most wonderful experience, perhaps even feeling the rapture of being alive. That said, it was Schopenhauer who stated that life is something that never should have been. Is something that can suffer better than nothing, no experience no regrets?
Then why doesn't it come across in your writing? Your writing is a manifestation of what is going on in your head.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 4:43 pmDrugs lose effectiveness over time. I've been on some pretty powerful ones since I was 25. Increasing dosages usually just increases side effects along with it. Not everyone in this world is blessed with good mental health. Perhaps those who tell others to "be thankful" should start with themselves and thank God or nature (or whatever they believe in) that they do not have a severe mental illness. It's a whole different world from the inside. The day I had my first psychosis it changed me overnight from a spirited person to little more than a vegetable. Look up "negative symptoms of schizophrenia" and it'll tell you a little of what the severely mentally ill go through. And mental illness is a life sentence, there is no cure, only management of symptoms.Sculptor wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:18 pmI do not believe you. If you really do no think it is worth living then you have several solutions, yet you have chosen not to take them.
There are various remedies for mental illness, some more effective than others. Dietary change, exercise, volunteering in good works, or even happy pills.
My view is that, although mental states are also chemical/physical brain states that can be altered by drugs but also by simple human praxis, either formal like CRT or filling your life with things you consider worthy.
Ultimately there's nothing anyone can do for the mentally ill other than watch us decline. Of course, everyone declines over time, such is life. Life is a terminal illness but most look away from the abyss because they can. Those of us who are doomed to have seen the abyss just seem to suffer eternally.
That sad, Gary. And I mean that literally, and without irony. But wouldn't it be better to find a counselor, maybe somebody with insight on the chemical, physiological and social dimensions of your situation? I mean, that would likely be closer to helpful that this.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 5:34 amI'm speaking of my experience, because if I don't, then I have to bury it inside of me. It helps me to get it out into the open. Otherwise, I don't have a whole lot to talk to anyone about.
I know - my brother was profoundly schizophrenic.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 4:43 pmDrugs lose effectiveness over time. I've been on some pretty powerful ones since I was 25. Increasing dosages usually just increases side effects along with it. Not everyone in this world is blessed with good mental health.Sculptor wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:18 pmI do not believe you. If you really do no think it is worth living then you have several solutions, yet you have chosen not to take them.
There are various remedies for mental illness, some more effective than others. Dietary change, exercise, volunteering in good works, or even happy pills.
My view is that, although mental states are also chemical/physical brain states that can be altered by drugs but also by simple human praxis, either formal like CRT or filling your life with things you consider worthy.
I did not ask you to be thankful.Perhaps those who tell others to "be thankful" should start with themselves and thank God or nature (or whatever they believe in) that they do not have a severe mental illness.
My brother could not have written what you can. There are levels, and diferences between individuals. There are also bad diagnoses, and a very limited understanding amongst the "profession" as to what counts as schizophrenia, and who "deserves" to be nominated with the condition.It's a whole different world from the inside. The day I had my first psychosis it changed me overnight from a spirited person to little more than a vegetable. Look up "negative symptoms of schizophrenia" and it'll tell you a little of what the severely mentally ill go through. And mental illness is a life sentence, there is no cure, only management of symptoms.
That is false.
Ultimately there's nothing anyone can do for the mentally ill other than watch us decline.
Of course, everyone declines over time, such is life. Life is a terminal illness but most look away from the abyss because they can. Those of us who are doomed to have seen the abyss just seem to suffer eternally.
Then they answered in the affirmative, or you were on the psychiatric ward---lol!!Agent Smith wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:06 am I've seen plenty of happy faces in hospitals and cemeteries.
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 12:12 amThen they answered in the affirmative, or you were on the psychiatric ward---lol!!Agent Smith wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:06 am I've seen plenty of happy faces in hospitals and cemeteries.