bahman wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 4:30 pm
Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 4:45 am
bahman wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 4:05 pm
I am talking about my version of substance dualism in which there are minds and qualia, the mind being an irreducible substance with the ability to experience and cause qualia, and qualia is the subject of experience. I have several arguments in favor the substance dualism.
Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 7:22 am
Because you begin with an ASSUMPTION, the mind is independent and separate from 'reality' there is no way you will EVER realize or know what is reality-in-itself. Thus to find an answer to what is reality on the basis of dualism or physical realism is a non-starter.
Not, when substance dualism is established as the only viewpoint that describes reality well.
If you are stating reality is with [entangled] with minds, then I will agree with you.
Besides there is no minds if there are no humans.
No, of course, there are minds in absence of humans as far as there is motion.
But there is no motion when there is no humans?
Here is a Zen wisdom to note;
- “The wind was flapping the temple flag.
Two monks were arguing about it.
One said the flag was moving; the other said the wind was moving. Arguing back and forth they could not agree on the truth.
The Sixth Patriarch [Hui Neng] said, ‘It is neither the wind that is moving nor the flag that is moving. It is your mind that is moving’.
The two monks were struck with awe”
So no minds, no motion.
If you are not familiar with Zen, Zen views of reality are arrived from very deep reflection of reality.
Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 7:22 am
Empirical evidence alone cannot take you anywhere.
Note I stated
subjected to a FSK...supported with rational philosophical reasoning.
Are you saying scientific facts based on empirical evidences from the scientific FSK cannot take humanity anywhere?
It is a good tool but it cannot tell you what the truth is.
What "truth" are you looking for? Absolute unconditional truths? Well they don't exist at all. There is no absolute truth-in-itself.
The most credible truths are from the science (also mathematics) even though they are at best mere
polished conjectures. The most reliable truths are 'conjectures!' [polished].
Show me what other truths are more credible than those of science and mathematics?
The critical criteria for any truth is whether they are objective [rationally] and can contribute utility to mankind. Obviously you cannot deny this with scientific knowledge while acknowledging it has limitations as well.
I agree that the brain creates hallucinations but that is the mind that experiences them.
The brain is basically a physical thing thus do not create nor experiences.
It is the mind that generate hallucinations and experience them in separate functions [surely you are not ignorant of this?].
The human brain has many parts with separate functions so representing the multivariate mind.
Thus a mind [prefrontal cortex activities] can plan to have sex, drugs, entertainment, and the likes to trigger the pleasure center to generate pleasure within the mind.