I'm sorry, Nick: I must have missed the expression "conscious evolution" in the passage. Maybe you'll help me out.
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You're a joke Henry. I've never seen you produce an actual rational argument for anything. You are like the meal that is perpetually 'leftovers', with the original meal being lost in the mists of time (if there ever was one). All you do is cosy up to your religioturd buddies while proclaiming that you 'aren't a kristian' because you have your own name for big sky daddy. You can call a shit a rose, but it still smells like shit.henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:40 pmIt's what you do...
...when things ain't goin' your way.
'nuff said
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You're a joke Henry.
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Then it's a deal.
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Being a joke doesn't make you funny--only pathetic.henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:17 am7494F760-73E3-455C-9B93-770391EBDAA3.jpegYou're a joke Henry.
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Well then you shoulda been more specific: You're a bad joke Henry.
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Conscious evolution isn't a biblical term but the idea it represents is. Consider 1 Corinthians 15. Paul describes the evolution of the natural body into the spiritual body or a higher quality of being. Natural Man doesn't understand what respect for life means. Yet It would be natural for spiritual ManImmanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:33 pmI'm sorry, Nick: I must have missed the expression "conscious evolution" in the passage. Maybe you'll help me out.
A caterpillar evolves into a moth by a mechanical process. Man evolves from natural man into the being of spiritual man by a conscious process. Natural man has the potential for conscious evolution but is mostly rejected by natural man conditioned to live in the darkness of the world.
1 Corinthians 15:
..................35 But someone will ask, “How are the dead raised? With what kind of body will they come?” 36 How foolish! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. 37 When you sow, you do not plant the body that will be, but just a seed, perhaps of wheat or of something else. 38 But God gives it a body as he has determined, and to each kind of seed he gives its own body. 39 Not all flesh is the same: People have one kind of flesh, animals have another, birds another and fish another. 40 There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies; but the splendor of the heavenly bodies is one kind, and the splendor of the earthly bodies is another. 41 The sun has one kind of splendor, the moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendor.
42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.
If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 45 So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”[f]; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit. 46 The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual. 47 The first man was of the dust of the earth; the second man is of heaven. 48 As was the earthly man, so are those who are of the earth; and as is the heavenly man, so also are those who are of heaven. 49 And just as we have borne the image of the earthly man, so shall we[g] bear the image of the heavenly man.
The conscious evolution of natural Man into Spiritual Man is made possible through the help of the Spirit. Without it Man just turns in circles as the Wretched Man caught between the psychological impulses of the world and the awareness of the quality of being a human being is capable of evolving towards.
Re: Infanticide
So, to you, the WHOLE POINT of this thread called "Infanticide" is to SHOW and REVEAL that 'you', personally, do NOT KNOW what 'respect for life' ACTUALLY MEANS, although it is 'you' who goes on about 'respect for life' as though you DID KNOW, correct?
If no, then what IS Correct here, EXACTLY?
Also, do NOT even 'try to' speak for ALL of 'humanity', that way you will NOT come across the way you are here.
If 'you' have, personally, become INCAPABLE of 'experiencing' 'respect for life', then this EXPLAINS HOW and WHY 'you', personally, do NOT even KNOW what 'respect for life' REALLY MEANS.
Oh, and by the way, 'I' KNOW what 'respect for life' MEANS, IS, and REFERS TO, EXACTLY.
If one has NOT YET 'experienced' 'respect for life', the OBVIOUSLY 'they' have NOT YET 'consciously learned' what 'respect for life' ACTUALLY IS.
But, what is the ACTUAL POINT in 'you' TELLING 'us' that 'you', personally, do NOT know NOR feel 'what respect for life is'?
What are 'you' 'trying to' accomplish by do this?
What are 'you' on about here, now?
All while 'you', adult human beings, SIT BACK and OBSERVE, and LET IT, all happen. BECAUSE 'you' are ALL TOO AFRAID that 'your' so-called "leaders" will RELEASE NUCLEAR BOMBS on 'you', personally.Nick_A wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:37 pm https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukrai ... 8d090e38e3
MARIUPOL, Ukraine (AP) — The bodies of the children all lie here, dumped into this narrow trench hastily dug into the frozen earth of Mariupol to the constant drumbeat of shelling.
To a 'dead body' does it REALLY MATTER how deep or how shallow a 'trench' is dug?
As for the rest of most of 'you', adult human beings, what does it really matter if a 'human body' is laying on the ground not breathing, 'you', after all, KILL other bodies just so 'you' can fulfill 'your' taste buds of MEAT?
Did I HEAR ANY of this 'whinging' AND 'complaining' when it was "americans" and their so-called "allies" BOMBING woman AND children in "iraq" or "afghanistan" or were those 'wars' "JUSTIFIABLE".Nick_A wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:37 pm There’s 18-month-old Kirill, whose shrapnel wound to the head proved too much for his little toddler’s body. There’s 16-year-old Iliya, whose legs were blown up in an explosion during a soccer game at a school field. There’s the girl no older than 6 who wore the pajamas with cartoon unicorns, among the first of Mariupol’s children to die from a Russian shell.
The absolute NARROWNESS and SHORT-SIGHTED of 'you', adult human beings, in the days when this being written NEVER ceases to AMAZE ME.
EXACTLY LIKE when an INVISIBLE NEW 'virus' came into the 'human body', and JUST LIKE when people's of OTHER "countries" INVADED places like "iraq" or "vietnam" just to, literally, name ONLY a FEW, of MANY.
And, JUST LIKE what WILL HAPPEN when a meteor hits earth. Either the REMAINDER of 'you' DIG an INDIVIDUAL HOLE for EACH and EVERY body who has stopped breathing, or 'you' just put them ALL into one BIGGER hole. And, when the number of the so-called "dead" outnumber the number of the so-called "living", then which HOLE is EASIER and SIMPLER to DIG should NOT be too much of a SURPRISE.
How MANY "homeless people" covered in tarps are in the "country", which you are "boarded by", and which you SAY absolutely NOTHING?
HIDING in a concrete or wooden building does NOT REALLY help that much when 'you', human beings, are DROPPING BOMBS on it, either.
The PURPOSE of the BOMBS that 'you', adult human beings, MAKE and CREATE is so that they WILL DESTROY the building that are MADE and CREATED by 'you'.
By the way, this appears to be what 'you' watched and observed on the so-called "news" today or yesterday, and WHEN 'you' watch and observe DIFFERENT "news", then 'you' WILL FORGET 'this' and START 'whining and complaining' about 'that'.
LOOK, this is 'the world' that 'you', adult human beings, are CREATING, for "yourselves", and VERY UNFORTUNATELY for 'you' OWN 'children'. But, if 'this' is what YOU WANT, then 'this' is what YOU GET.
I can ONLY SHOW 'you' HOW to REACH and ACHIEVE Peace AND Harmony for "yourselves". I can NOT make 'you' DO IT.
And, If, and WHEN, 'this war' STOPS, 'you' can then get BACK TO complaining about how 'this war' has HIKED up gasoline and other PRICES, which is USUALLY what adult human beings REALLY HATE and DETEST. Oh, and by the way, 'you' WILL keep doing 'this' until the NEXT WAR BEGINS. Which, again, will be CENTERED and FOCUSED around the GREED and SELFISHNESS of the adult human being.
A "seeker of truth" MEANS and REFERS TO a 'human being' who is STILL LOOKING FOR the 'truth'. And, if ANY one has NOT YET FOUND thee ACTUAL Truth of 'things' within say a 'couple of seconds', then they REALLY NEED to CHANGE the WAY that they are LOOKING and SEEKING.
The adults of 'humanity', on MOST of the ' "boarded areas" of land' on earth, when this is being written, OBVIOUSLY, not just 'lacks respect for life' but have completely and utterly LOST ALL 'respect for ALL life', except for their OWN 'personal life' and for a VERY select FEW "others". This is CLEAR and True.
But what are you going to do about 'it' "nick_a"? Do 'you' think or BELIEVE 'trying to' BELITTLE or RIDICULE some woman for aborting their children, who WISH to NOT bring their OWN children INTO 'this world', which you are just COMPLAINING about anyway, is going to change ANY 'thing' REALLY. Oh, and by the way, have you EVER considered that 'your' JUDGING, BELITTLING, and RIDICULING "others" is REALLY SHOWING 'respect for the life' of "another"? And, which you have OBVIOUSLY NEVER had to LIVE through NOR 'experience'?
When 'you' USE the 'we' word, like 'you' did just here, then as long as 'you' are NOT including 'I' in this 'we', then that is PERFECTLY FINE, and REASONABLE. But, if 'you' ARE including 'I' in this 'we', then 'you' REALLY do have a LONG WAY to go, and COME, to FIND and REACH thee Truth.
Which is EXACTLY what 'you' are DOING HERE with 'your' continual referral to 'respect for life'. You have ADMITTED, correct, that you STILL do NOT YET KNOW what 'it' ACTUALLY MEANS or REFERS TO, right?
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They aren't going to answer anything. Religious freaks never do. The are too busy preening themselves on their moral pedestal.Age wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:47 amSo, to you, the WHOLE POINT of this thread called "Infanticide" is to SHOW and REVEAL that 'you', personally, do NOT KNOW what 'respect for life' ACTUALLY MEANS, although it is 'you' who goes on about 'respect for life' as though you DID KNOW, correct?
If no, then what IS Correct here, EXACTLY?
Also, do NOT even 'try to' speak for ALL of 'humanity', that way you will NOT come across the way you are here.
If 'you' have, personally, become INCAPABLE of 'experiencing' 'respect for life', then this EXPLAINS HOW and WHY 'you', personally, do NOT even KNOW what 'respect for life' REALLY MEANS.
Oh, and by the way, 'I' KNOW what 'respect for life' MEANS, IS, and REFERS TO, EXACTLY.
If one has NOT YET 'experienced' 'respect for life', the OBVIOUSLY 'they' have NOT YET 'consciously learned' what 'respect for life' ACTUALLY IS.
But, what is the ACTUAL POINT in 'you' TELLING 'us' that 'you', personally, do NOT know NOR feel 'what respect for life is'?
What are 'you' 'trying to' accomplish by do this?
What are 'you' on about here, now?All while 'you', adult human beings, SIT BACK and OBSERVE, and LET IT, all happen. BECAUSE 'you' are ALL TOO AFRAID that 'your' so-called "leaders" will RELEASE NUCLEAR BOMBS on 'you', personally.Nick_A wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:37 pm https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukrai ... 8d090e38e3
MARIUPOL, Ukraine (AP) — The bodies of the children all lie here, dumped into this narrow trench hastily dug into the frozen earth of Mariupol to the constant drumbeat of shelling.
To a 'dead body' does it REALLY MATTER how deep or how shallow a 'trench' is dug?
As for the rest of most of 'you', adult human beings, what does it really matter if a 'human body' is laying on the ground not breathing, 'you', after all, KILL other bodies just so 'you' can fulfill 'your' taste buds of MEAT?Did I HEAR ANY of this 'whinging' AND 'complaining' when it was "americans" and their so-called "allies" BOMBING woman AND children in "iraq" or "afghanistan" or were those 'wars' "JUSTIFIABLE".Nick_A wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:37 pm There’s 18-month-old Kirill, whose shrapnel wound to the head proved too much for his little toddler’s body. There’s 16-year-old Iliya, whose legs were blown up in an explosion during a soccer game at a school field. There’s the girl no older than 6 who wore the pajamas with cartoon unicorns, among the first of Mariupol’s children to die from a Russian shell.
The absolute NARROWNESS and SHORT-SIGHTED of 'you', adult human beings, in the days when this being written NEVER ceases to AMAZE ME.EXACTLY LIKE when an INVISIBLE NEW 'virus' came into the 'human body', and JUST LIKE when people's of OTHER "countries" INVADED places like "iraq" or "vietnam" just to, literally, name ONLY a FEW, of MANY.
And, JUST LIKE what WILL HAPPEN when a meteor hits earth. Either the REMAINDER of 'you' DIG an INDIVIDUAL HOLE for EACH and EVERY body who has stopped breathing, or 'you' just put them ALL into one BIGGER hole. And, when the number of the so-called "dead" outnumber the number of the so-called "living", then which HOLE is EASIER and SIMPLER to DIG should NOT be too much of a SURPRISE.
How MANY "homeless people" covered in tarps are in the "country", which you are "boarded by", and which you SAY absolutely NOTHING?
HIDING in a concrete or wooden building does NOT REALLY help that much when 'you', human beings, are DROPPING BOMBS on it, either.
The PURPOSE of the BOMBS that 'you', adult human beings, MAKE and CREATE is so that they WILL DESTROY the building that are MADE and CREATED by 'you'.
By the way, this appears to be what 'you' watched and observed on the so-called "news" today or yesterday, and WHEN 'you' watch and observe DIFFERENT "news", then 'you' WILL FORGET 'this' and START 'whining and complaining' about 'that'.
LOOK, this is 'the world' that 'you', adult human beings, are CREATING, for "yourselves", and VERY UNFORTUNATELY for 'you' OWN 'children'. But, if 'this' is what YOU WANT, then 'this' is what YOU GET.
I can ONLY SHOW 'you' HOW to REACH and ACHIEVE Peace AND Harmony for "yourselves". I can NOT make 'you' DO IT.And, If, and WHEN, 'this war' STOPS, 'you' can then get BACK TO complaining about how 'this war' has HIKED up gasoline and other PRICES, which is USUALLY what adult human beings REALLY HATE and DETEST. Oh, and by the way, 'you' WILL keep doing 'this' until the NEXT WAR BEGINS. Which, again, will be CENTERED and FOCUSED around the GREED and SELFISHNESS of the adult human being.A "seeker of truth" MEANS and REFERS TO a 'human being' who is STILL LOOKING FOR the 'truth'. And, if ANY one has NOT YET FOUND thee ACTUAL Truth of 'things' within say a 'couple of seconds', then they REALLY NEED to CHANGE the WAY that they are LOOKING and SEEKING.
The adults of 'humanity', on MOST of the ' "boarded areas" of land' on earth, when this is being written, OBVIOUSLY, not just 'lacks respect for life' but have completely and utterly LOST ALL 'respect for ALL life', except for their OWN 'personal life' and for a VERY select FEW "others". This is CLEAR and True.
But what are you going to do about 'it' "nick_a"? Do 'you' think or BELIEVE 'trying to' BELITTLE or RIDICULE some woman for aborting their children, who WISH to NOT bring their OWN children INTO 'this world', which you are just COMPLAINING about anyway, is going to change ANY 'thing' REALLY. Oh, and by the way, have you EVER considered that 'your' JUDGING, BELITTLING, and RIDICULING "others" is REALLY SHOWING 'respect for the life' of "another"? And, which you have OBVIOUSLY NEVER had to LIVE through NOR 'experience'?
When 'you' USE the 'we' word, like 'you' did just here, then as long as 'you' are NOT including 'I' in this 'we', then that is PERFECTLY FINE, and REASONABLE. But, if 'you' ARE including 'I' in this 'we', then 'you' REALLY do have a LONG WAY to go, and COME, to FIND and REACH thee Truth.
Which is EXACTLY what 'you' are DOING HERE with 'your' continual referral to 'respect for life'. You have ADMITTED, correct, that you STILL do NOT YET KNOW what 'it' ACTUALLY MEANS or REFERS TO, right?
Re: Infanticide
Is this like "cut and run"?
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And 'you' KNOW this HOW, EXACTLY?Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:48 pmSlavery vastly predates Christianity...or is your idea that there were no slaves in ancient Greece or Rome or Persia or Mesapotamia?
Actually, we find that slavery is as old and august an institution as prostitution and killing neighbours. It's as old as history itself,
Did 'history', itself, BEGIN, to you?
But 'history', itself, does NOT 'record' ANY 'thing'. ONLY 'you', human beings, 'record' 'things'.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:48 pm since there would have to be slaves already if history were to record any.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:48 pm That the Christian Bible uses slavery as a synonym for "bondage to sin," or that it comments on the existing practices and lives of slaves (For example, telling people, "If you are able to buy your freedom do so, and if not, you can still serve God.") does not convert slavery into a "Christian" institution, anymore than the Emancipation Proclamation makes slavery an "American" concept.
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And, WHICH 'cultures' EXACTLY have, SUPPOSEDLY, "institutionalized FORCIBLE child RAPE"?Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:12 pmDoes it matter? After all, a purpose doesn't suddenly turn an action to something with a moral purpose just because some "society" decides it's useful. Many mideastern cultures have institutionalized forcible child rape, as having the "social purpose" of gratifying their men. Does that make it moral? Of course not, right?
And, let us NOT FORGET that EVERY WESTERN 'culture' HAS "institutionalized FORCIBLE child RAPE".
But 'you', "immanual can", ONLY want to LOOK AT and JUDGE the "others", CORRECT?
Well 'you' have said ENOUGH here, ALREADY.
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It is just a 'coincidence' that these "three "wise" men", some might say, STILL, after centuries, refer to 'human beings' as "MEN". is 'this' so-called "christian religion" so POWERFUL that these "three adult human beings" can STILL NOT SEE past their OWN 'gender'?Nick_A wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:20 pmImmanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:12 pmDoes it matter? After all, a purpose doesn't suddenly turn an action to something with a moral purpose just because some "society" decides it's useful. Many mideastern cultures have institutionalized forcible child rape, as having the "social purpose" of gratifying their men. Does that make it moral? Of course not, right?
But I should let Nick answer...Social pressure refers to the influences of the collective or society one is born in. The collective is the source of pressures which produces sin. This is the norm for the human condition. Man lives with the struggle between social pressures and the human ideals their conscience allows them to feel. Paul is suggesting that without the help of the spirit brought into the world by the Christ, our potential for conscious evolution is hopeless.Romans 7
21 So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22 For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; 23 but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. 24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? 25 Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!
So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful nature[d] a slave to the law of sin.
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WHY, and, HOW, EXACTLY?
What is the 'interest' based and judged on, EXACTLY.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:12 pm We should adopt all babbies out at random to an interested person who was more responsible than to bring a babbie into this twisted fucking society.
And, who, EXACTLY does the 'judging' of the 'more responsible', from the 'less responsible'? What is the 'judging' based upon, EXACTLY?
And, to me, if one is 'judging' "another", then they are being Truly 'IRRESPONSIBLE'.
But, literally, who am 'I' to SAY ANY 'thing' here?
Oh, I THOUGHT 'you' were being SERIOUS before. But now I can SEE that you are CLEARLY NOT.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:12 pm The babbies will automatically be enrolled in a Circle of Trust with certain legal immunities and privileges, so they will always have a default backup family support system. The circle is also randomly chosen.
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Are 'you' even AWARE "nick_a" that there can be as many VERSIONS or INTERPRETATIONS of 'passages' in A bible, of which there are ALSO MANY DIFFERENT VERSIONS of, as there are 'people' who read the 'passage/s'?Nick_A wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:02 amConscious evolution isn't a biblical term but the idea it represents is. Consider 1 Corinthians 15.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:33 pmI'm sorry, Nick: I must have missed the expression "conscious evolution" in the passage. Maybe you'll help me out.
Which MEANS whatever 'version" or "interpretation" that 'you' want to use is NOT necessarily the ONE intended NOR meant, okay?
Well considering the OBVIOUSLY Fact that there could NEVER be ANY 'thing', which is NOT 'natural', then what is being SAID and MEANT here, EXACTLY?Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:12 pm Paul describes the evolution of the natural body into the spiritual body or a higher quality of being. Natural Man doesn't understand what respect for life means. Yet It would be natural for spiritual Man.
Also, WHY the persistent references to "men"? When are 'you', male gendered adult human beings, going to GROW UP and SEE, and SPEAK, thee ACTUAL Truth of 'things'?
Considering the Fact that 'you' like to IMAGINE that 'you' are a "truth seeker", what you SAY sometimes is Truly HILARIOUS to WATCH and OBSERVE.
Will 'you' name just ONE so-called ''natural man'' who has YET, in the day when this is being written, evolved passed the 'human being' stage?
If yes, then GREAT.
But, if no, then WHY NOT?
Is it because absolutely NONE of 'you' have YET, or for some OTHER reason?
Just as 'human beings' evolved from "other" named 'things' so to does the 'human being' evolve out of the 'human being' 'thing', and moves UP the so-called 'evolutionary-ladder' to the NEXT STAGE, which is just the God-stage.
'Time travel'.
Whatever 'body' is IN Existence, at ANY given moment, or 'time'.
What does the 'it' word here refer to, EXACTLY, to 'you', "nick_a"?
And, ...?
AGAIN, what is with these references to "male gender"?
God, in the visible sense, is just 'matter', itself. And, ALL 'matter' whatever shape, form, or body 'it' is IN, at ANY given moment, was 'determined' BY the way, shape, or form 'matter' was IN, PREVIOUSLY.
HOW EVERY 'thing' got its 'body' was DETERMINED or BECAUSE OF previous moments, in this One ETERNAL 'world' or Universe.
How MANY DIFFERENT "kinds of flesh" ARE THERE? And, what is the LIST of them ALL?
It is 'ALL WELL and GOOD', as some might SAY, to just STATE or CLAIM 'things', but if the 'one' doing the STATING and CLAIMING can NOT back up and support their STATEMENTS and CLAIMS, then, REALLY, what use is there even STATING and CLAIMING those 'things'?
Now, what, EXACTLY, is a so-called "heavenly body" AND what is a so-called "earthly body", EXACTLY?
And, what is the ACTUAL DIFFERENCE?
And, to some, Life and EVERY 'thing' in It is just plain old UGLY.
But, 'you' are ALL absolutely FREE to LOOK AT and SEE 'things' in absolutely ANY WAY 'you' like.
To 'who', EXACTLY?
To some of 'Us' the 'resurrection' was NOTHING REALLY that 'abnormal' AT ALL.
What is this CONCLUSION of 'yours' based UP ON, EXACTLY?Nick_A wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:02 am The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.
If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.
When 'you' STOP using the ABSURD word 'man' in these terms, and START 'bearing WITNESS' to thee ACTUAL Truth of 'things', then 'things' become MUCH CLEARER, and in fact absolutely CRYSTAL CLEAR.Nick_A wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:02 am 45 So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”[f]; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit. 46 The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual. 47 The first man was of the dust of the earth; the second man is of heaven. 48 As was the earthly man, so are those who are of the earth; and as is the heavenly man, so also are those who are of heaven. 49 And just as we have borne the image of the earthly man, so shall we[g] bear the image of the heavenly man.
Considering the Fact that the Spiritual Being is ALWAYS, ETERNAL, and that REACHING and ACHIEVING thee Spiritual Being, thy Self, is the PURPOSE of 'evolution' AND 'creation' OF COURSE 'you', human beings, continually evolving UP INTO 'being' who 'you' Truly ARE is just Natural and POSSIBLE because of 'I', thy (True) Self
AND, reading and following "religious teachings" can be a PRIME EXAMPLE of 'you' 'human beings TURNING IN CIRCLES', and NOT moving forward and, literally, STEPPING UP INTO thy Spiritual Being.