attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:50 pm
Age wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 4:58 am
Lacewing wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 4:29 pm
I agree. It can be done fairly and reasonably. The abuser knows what the punishment will be -- if they abuse anyway, they've made a choice. The victim gets to see some immediate justice and correction. Think of the reduction in the prison population and expense. Think of the countless children and adults who would not be abused and potentially traumatized if such a system nullified ongoing threats. Until people can evolve to be more in control of themselves, the system should protect them (and others) from themselves.
We have laws/measures that protect people from all kinds of things (some of them ridiculous)... yet sexual child abuse and rape seem to still be treated and swept aside as simply an ugly and unavoidable part of life... too bad for the victims. FUCK NO... RESOLVE IT like it should be resolved! Cultures of men preying on children and women is absolutely disgusting and primitive. It is completely unacceptable... and abusers should be modified since they can't control themselves. Then I bet humankind will evolve real fast!
And what exactly is needed to stop 'you', "lacewing", from abusing children and "others"? Or are 'you' just another one of those who is in complete denial here?
Also, if you believe that castration will prevent or stop sexual abuse or rape from happening again, then you will be very sadly mistaken.
Well said. (apart from the LW thing - just substitute for someone that actually might be an abuser)
EVERY adult human being is a child abuser.
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:50 pm
Most people that commit heinous acts upon others - killing and raping children etc..were from terrible broken "homes"
What, exactly, do you mean by, "broken homes"?
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:50 pm
Pretty much every fucked up person, is a result of fucked up parents.
Could you name an adult human being who is not a so-called "fucked up person"?
If yes, then who exactly?
EVERY adult human being, hitherto when this was being written, was abused as a child, and this is WHY EVERY adult human being, is currently abusing children.
Just so it is PERFECTLY CLEAR, there is NEVER ANY 'excuse' for doing Wrong, but there are ALWAYS reasons WHY. And, the fundamental reason WHY ALL of 'you', adult human beings, NEVER minimizes, excuses, NOR justifies ANY of your abusive behaviors but explains WHY, which WILL then help in guiding 'you' to ALL helping EACH OTHER to ALL STOP abusing children. 'Prevention is better than the cure'. Finding the reasons WHY is the ONLY WAY prevention can and will work. And, PREVENTION, itself, is ACTUALLY 'THE CURE'.
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:50 pm
It's not an excuse, but certainly - torturing these poor saps for their crimes is reducing us to every parent and grandparent that caused these people to be so disgusting all the way down the line.
Punishing the "abuser" is just punishing the "abused", even further.
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:50 pm
..and yeah, these types arn't going to hesitate doing what they do just because they may eventually cop torture themselves (as if that's "JUSTICE")
Ridiculous.
VERY True.
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:50 pm
The wrath of God is a bit of a **** tho, I hope you all have been good - a tarnished soul is one thing, but woh, there are certain lines when crossed - fucked if i want to face the next test, some fates are worse than death, and the problem of gnosis is, u know if you kill yourself, you might get reincarnated again, wiped memory clean, ready to fuck up all over again and face hell all over again.
No thanks.
ps. I havent been reading this thread, only this page, so I may have the gist of the conversation skewed some!