bahman wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:36 pm
Age wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:38 am
bahman wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:48 pm
What do you mean by constant?
The change, which is everywhere, except that the Universe is 'constantly' changing. So, this means: There is change everywhere except in the FACT that the Universe is 'constantly changing'. This FACT, obviously, can NOT change. So, therefore, there is change 'everywhere', except for 'here'.
Is this CLEAR and UNDERSTOOD now?
Yes.
Age wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:28 am
bahman wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:48 pm
I have an argument for that.
Yes I KNOW. But, as I have ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED and STATED, that, so called, "argument" is NOT a sound and valid argument. Therefore, it is NOT worth repeating.
You obviously have NOT YET provided sufficient definitions for the words that you use, which makes a sound AND valid argument for YOUR CLAIMS here.
bahman wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:48 pm
Conscious of Qualia.
Qualia.
How, EXACTLY, does the Universe, Itself, perceive or experience things?
That is the ability of the mind.
But which "mind"?
You have claimed there are MANY "minds", and well as there being HUMAN "minds", which implies there are other types of "minds".
Now, if there are MANY different types of "minds", which "one" perceives and experiences things PROPERLY and CORRECTLY?
And what else there that could DECIPHER or DISCERN what is going on here, and ALL-OF-THIS?
bahman wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:36 pmOtherwise, there could not be any coherence in reality.
Have you NOT YET noticed just how much incoherence there is, in reality?
Or, more correctly, there is, ONLY, in 'you', human beings.
By the way, if you are interested, 'you', "bahman", have a very bad habit of "circular reasoning". Although your conclusions are sometimes ABSOLUTELY True, Right, and Correct, the way you get there is VERY CIRCULAR, and so it is NOT helping your cause.
For example,
There could be no coherence in reality without the mind to perceive and experience things.
There is coherence in reality.
Therefore, the mind has the ability to perceive and experience things.
The Universe, Itself, is a formed unified whole. It did NOT need a species to evolve and come along for 'coherence' to then occur. The Universe exists and IS COHERED on Its OWN.
In 'Reality', Itself, there is ONLY coherence. And, it is only 'you', human being species, which "pulls apart" or "separates" this COHERENCE. This is because of how the human brain works. For the human brain to UNDERSTAND FULLY the 'world'/the Universe/the Reality that it lives in it has to make an APPEARANCE of 'separation', which it can only do this through words and language.