I'm not interested in you anymore, Skep. You've gone too many messages without being interesting. Sophistry is boring.
make truth?
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There's no issue. You're simply unable to demonstrate anything you claim.
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So why isn't it boring when you are doing it?Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:54 pm I'm not interested in you anymore, Skep. You've gone too many messages without being interesting. Sophistry is boring.
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It can't be false either.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:29 pm It's your claim. You claim there is no objective truth.
That claim cannot, therefore, be true.
So what do you make of that claim; or Philosophy in general when "truth" and "falsity" are made up?
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Yeah, actually, it can: it can be nonsensical. And nonsensical things are not merely false...they're factually false, but also absurd, as well.Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:33 pmIt can't be false either.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:29 pm It's your claim. You claim there is no objective truth.
That claim cannot, therefore, be true.
That's what self-contradiction gets one.
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You seem to be confusing truth and meaning.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:43 pm Yeah, actually, it can: it can be nonsensical. And nonsensical things are not merely false...they're factually false, but also absurd, as well.
That's what self-contradiction gets one.
But it'd be difficult to explain the difference to a sophist.
Start with the question: "What does it mean for a sentence to be true?"
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no argument thereImmanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:34 pmWell, rhetorical questions are difficult to mark in this format.
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Seeming as you think you are in a position to tell whether I am "right" or "wrong" then you already believe you know what the difference is.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:12 pmGo ahead. Explain what you think the difference is. Then I'll tell you whether you're right or not.
No use arguing about a mere "seeming."
So why are you trying to waste my time?
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Nope. I have no window into your mind. What you think you are pointing out, only you can say. Go ahead.Skepdick wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 2:49 pmSeeming as you think you are in a position to tell whether I am "right" or "wrong" then you already believe you know what the difference is.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:12 pmGo ahead. Explain what you think the difference is. Then I'll tell you whether you're right or not.
No use arguing about a mere "seeming."
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It seems to me that there can be no single truth in metaphysical matters. Here everyone has their own truth, based on personal experience and outlook on life.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 3:01 pmNope. I have no window into your mind. What you think you are pointing out, only you can say. Go ahead.Skepdick wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 2:49 pmSeeming as you think you are in a position to tell whether I am "right" or "wrong" then you already believe you know what the difference is.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:12 pm
Go ahead. Explain what you think the difference is. Then I'll tell you whether you're right or not.
No use arguing about a mere "seeming."
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The standard of "right" and "wrong" by which you intend to judge my words is in your mind, not mine.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 3:01 pm Nope. I have no window into your mind. What you think you are pointing out, only you can say. Go ahead.
Go ahead and furnish it.
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You have no window into my mind either. You don't know what I "intend."Skepdick wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 3:20 pmThe standard of "right" and "wrong" by which you intend...Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 3:01 pm Nope. I have no window into your mind. What you think you are pointing out, only you can say. Go ahead.
So I guess you can ante up or fold. Your call.
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I don't need a window into your mind. You told me what you intend.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:27 pm You have no window into my mind either. You don't know what I "intend."
I am all in...
How do you intend to tell whether I am right or not if you don't know the difference between truth and meaning?