DPMartin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:37 pmthe "original sin" theology of Catholicism is one thing and and why man is born into the state of sin in the case of man and man's Creator might have differences.
first, what did God give man in His own likeness and image (note not getting religious on you just using references)
Luk 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
and that life Adam had before he ate of the tree is what Adam and Eve died from that day. and God left them with the life in the flesh dust to dust like any other flesh God created.
thing is God gave man His place in the earth, to execute God's Judgements according to God. and Adam went with his own judgement and died of the Life God gave man originally. because God's Judgement is Life any other is not. Adam and or Eve trusted and or believed something other then the Word of God which is the Truth, meaning the Word of God is the Truth. hence faith where does one place their faith.
you or Luke confused? the ToK was not the ToL/
YHWH removed the latter and why man dies like all other animals/plants/
no other animal outside of man "sinned" - i.e. the rest of the animals never ate from the ToK - and yets still die. animals are affirmed as sinless, yet they dies like man.
and since man dies like animals - neather having ten from teh Tree of Life - and only man eting from the Three of knowledge - death is not tied to the eating fro teh Tok - since animals never ate from it and though without sin, still die - they like you and me die because we never ate from the Tree of life. - the other tre in the garden of eden.
yes per Genesis man after eating of one of the two - became separated from God (AND the animals) - and that corruption changed the animals somehow - where carniforse were born - prior the lion eat strwqw and slpt with the lambs.DPMartin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:37 pm
so after God let man live the life of the flesh we receive that same life that was to be with God but now is separate from God's Presence. and the NT is about the restoration of that life man originally had. one of the writers refers to Jesus as the second Adam for example. so the original sin is simply a state of man's separation from God's Presence, actually for man's sake.
anyway, you receive the life your fathers had when you come into the world.
in othrwords man was changed from being just another animal and communing with them, to becoming separate and in a way both masters over the animlas and in war with.
i.e. eating meat - carnivore - man and some animals changed via the "Fall" of amn, prior all were vegitarians.
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I'm an athiest - though have knowledge of religion - and my take is accurate oon the issue
good post Sir.