Who was responsible for the original sin ?

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Sculptor wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:30 pm
henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:17 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:16 pm

OKay!

The above message is symbolical narrative representing what is form as and through information. In other words, it's just knowledge. Not an actual person.


''Neither this man nor his parents sinned… but this happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life. — John 9:3''

You do not have to be a Christian to know God.

Henry, you've already told me in person that God is real and that he is a person. Remember?


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Sculptor wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:26 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:38 pm Adam as the first man, the first man, Adam, was created by God, in His image and ... on His name, giving them 'power to become the sons of God' (John 1:1–14).
Surely you actually know that this is not true?
Sculptor... I believe it's true, and what I believe becomes true for me, so yeah, I believe. It's a vibrant feeling when I believe in Gods word.
I'm not scared of dying, because I understand / know God.
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henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:17 pm
I'm a deist...I have my god
I get it. :D

And I don't think God is the religious type either, for God is the natural world. So whether this innate knowing is sourced from the natural earth or from knowledge written in a book of the natural earth, all knowledge is essentially innate to every knower anyway...as and through knowledge.

From source to source an endless fountain. The material earth is the conduit for knowledge to flow into awareness.
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Dontaskme wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:40 pm
Sculptor wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:26 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:38 pm Adam as the first man, the first man, Adam, was created by God, in His image and ... on His name, giving them 'power to become the sons of God' (John 1:1–14).
Surely you actually know that this is not true?
Sculptor... I believe it's true, and what I believe becomes true for me, so yeah, I believe. It's a vibrant feeling when I believe in Gods word.
I'm not scared of dying, because I understand / know God.
What a fuckwit.
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Dontaskme wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:50 pm
henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:17 pm
I'm a deist...I have my god
I get it. :D

And I don't think God is the religious type either, for God is the natural world.
And so why is it that you accept the BS about "Adam and Eve"??

Have you heard of "reason"?
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Sculptor wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:13 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:50 pm
henry quirk wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:17 pm
I'm a deist...I have my god
I get it. :D

And I don't think God is the religious type either, for God is the natural world.
And so why is it that you accept the BS about "Adam and Eve"??

Have you heard of "reason"?
Adam and Eve is a metaphorical symbolic narrative that points to the dual nature of self and being. Have you heard of such?

I reasoned this all out by my self thanks to knowledge. It's not rocket science. It's intuitively innate.

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Sculptor wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:12 pm
What a fuckwit.
That's what you get for shaking hands with a cactus. :mrgreen:
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Dontaskme wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:43 pm
Sculptor wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:13 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:50 pm

I get it. :D

And I don't think God is the religious type either, for God is the natural world.
And so why is it that you accept the BS about "Adam and Eve"??

Have you heard of "reason"?
Adam and Eve is a metaphorical symbolic narrative that points to the dual nature of self and being. Have you heard of such?
Indeed and this is why I pointed out that it was not true. Yet you said it was.
This religion things seems to be rotting your brain.
I reasoned this all out by my self thanks to knowledge. It's not rocket science. It's intuitively innate.
DUH!
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Sculptor wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:29 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:43 pm
Sculptor wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:13 pm

And so why is it that you accept the BS about "Adam and Eve"??

Have you heard of "reason"?
Adam and Eve is a metaphorical symbolic narrative that points to the dual nature of self and being. Have you heard of such?
Indeed and this is why I pointed out that it was not true. Yet you said it was.
This religion things seems to be rotting your brain.
I reasoned this all out by my self thanks to knowledge. It's not rocket science. It's intuitively innate.
DUH!
Ok Homer Simpson.

I don't care for the simple to get Homer types. I prefer the hard to get Jesus types. :lol:

PS: No man is man enough to take my woman ... Signed God. :lol:
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Dontaskme wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:38 pm
Sculptor wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:29 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:43 pm

Adam and Eve is a metaphorical symbolic narrative that points to the dual nature of self and being. Have you heard of such?
Indeed and this is why I pointed out that it was not true. Yet you said it was.
This religion things seems to be rotting your brain.
I reasoned this all out by my self thanks to knowledge. It's not rocket science. It's intuitively innate.
DUH!
Ok Homer Simpson.

I don't care for the simple to get Homer types. I prefer the hard to get Jesus types. :lol:

PS: No man is man enough to take my woman ... Signed God. :lol:
Homer says Doh!

"No man is man enough to take my woman
WTF.
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Sculptor wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:27 pm
Homer says Doh!

"No man is man enough to take my woman
WTF.
God is the animating life giving force. ( Male)

Adam is God incarnate...who needed a partner to be able to multiply the incarnation in the flesh. So then Adam who was God then made Eve from Adam( Female) aka Mother Earth...aka earthly mother, the result of the joining of the two in marriage infused with the animating life force of the Male to make Female.

From Female, which is really both male and female, offspring was possible, and so Jesus became the son of woman, the female...which is really God incarnate. Therefore, Jesus was really the Son of a Barren Woman, namely, God's Woman in holy matrimony..

A Godly earthly woman would only want a Godly earthly man, and that man would be Jesus.

How many men on earth today in 2021 ...who are really the offspring of the holy marriage..can honestly say they are Jesus like in their ways?


Both men and women today have strayed so far away from their divine natures. Even though their divine natures have not moved anywhere, they are dwelling within the men and women all the time, this nature never leaves them, they leave...when they start to believe they are separated.
That's why men and women find it difficult to be truly happy together.

When men and women adhere to the ways of Jesus, they would love each other unconditionally, and their relationships would be like heaven on earth.

Are you a Jesus type ? ..... I am.


Got that? :D
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Dontaskme wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:50 am
Sculptor wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:27 pm
Homer says Doh!

"No man is man enough to take my woman
WTF.
God is the animating life giving force. ( Male)
Evidence?
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Sculptor wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:20 am
Dontaskme wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:50 am
Sculptor wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:27 pm
Homer says Doh!

"No man is man enough to take my woman
WTF.
God is the animating life giving force. ( Male)
Evidence?
Are you alive?

If you say yes, then isn't that enough evidence.
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Dontaskme wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:19 am Does anyone here know the correct answer to this question?

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the "original sin" theology of Catholicism is one thing and and why man is born into the state of sin in the case of man and man's Creator might have differences.

first, what did God give man in His own likeness and image (note not getting religious on you just using references)

Luk 3:38  Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God

and that life Adam had before he ate of the tree is what Adam and Eve died from that day. and God left them with the life in the flesh dust to dust like any other flesh God created.

thing is God gave man His place in the earth, to execute God's Judgements according to God. and Adam went with his own judgement and died of the Life God gave man originally. because God's Judgement is Life any other is not. Adam and or Eve trusted and or believed something other then the Word of God which is the Truth, meaning the Word of God is the Truth. hence faith where does one place their faith.

so after God let man live the life of the flesh we receive that same life that was to be with God but now is separate from God's Presence. and the NT is about the restoration of that life man originally had. one of the writers refers to Jesus as the second Adam for example. so the original sin is simply a state of man's separation from God's Presence, actually for man's sake.

anyway, you receive the life your fathers had when you come into the world.
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