Then there is Nothing futher to talk to you about. (pun intended). I DEFINED Totality. You can't undefine my definition. Also, I pointed out that this background encompasses both itself and the foreground. They are 'manifest' real ONLY when the page is written on.Atla wrote: ↑Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:52 pmThe blank slate, the background are also something, not nothing, it's simply human thinking that automatically uses contrasting. Also, set theory has nothing to do with the real world. Also, totality does not contain "false" things (or "true" things for that matter) because these are judgements made by humans.Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:21 pmIt is. I defined Totality as containing all. There is no 'outside' and so even "false" things fit in it regardless. It is just separated from the rest. But regardless, the 'background' AS 'absolutely nothing' is behind all that is as well as all that is not.
In set theory, they define all things as 'classes'. Then they describe that a class is represented by braces, like (X) or {Y}. The EMPTY class (a set for being a member of Totality but that which 'contains' the meaning of nothing) is defined as "{}" or the ∅ for shorthand. Note that they chose this likely to represent that it is both a something AND a nothing using the strikethrough for this.
This ∅, the "empty set" represents this idea. All other sets can be defined by using this a its only 'constant' and various ways of representing different things using only these two symbols: '{' and '}'. This is all that is needed to prove most of all maths. I extend this to reality to the model given at some point, the reality itself HAS to be represent something abstract before it can be considered to 'manifest' space, time, and matter.
Your assumption of a default 'something' is like expecting characters to have meaningful expression WITHOUT a background that is itself ignored without notice....or writing without having a medium that something is 'written' on. The message of meaning of a blank page PRIOR to writing is this 'absolute nothing' by analogy. It means literally 'absolutely nothing' until one uses contrasting ink to represent 'something' as a message. But the 'something' that the writing represents REQUIRES that background FIRST. Absolulely Nothing, like a blank slate, can exit alone and independent of whatever else that can be added, while Absolutely Something is coincidence to the existence of that blank page as 'nothing' OR it is the writing alone. It still cannot mean anything without the blank spaces around characters that help identify the unique meanings of each expressed symbol.
These are simple examples of faulty thinking, sort them out and you'll see that nothing as origin is incoherent.
The use of logic/math is NOT a mere trivial non-existing TOOL. If it is a 'tool' it too has to be as real as a hammer when building a home. If it is not real, then it doesn't exist and cannot be used to 'prove' anything.