See if Biden does any better...attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:23 amHow free are dead people ? or people suffering on ventilators in overcrowded hospitals ?henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:02 am I agree that Atto should focus on policy
let's go there...
as I've said a few times: bein' a eleutheromaniac, I have a keener sense than most when freedom is gettin' the short shrift
anyone care to name anything ORANGE MAN has done in the past four years as prez that's eroded individual freedom?
BECAUSE--->
1. Trump lied at the outset about how serious this pandemic is, Y - to KEEP IN with his supporter base.
2. Trump still refuses to deflate his ego enough to actually care about the state of the US nation in the middle of a pandemic and allow someone with ACTUAL leadership qualities attempt to tame a horse that TRUMP allowed to bolt - a fucking virus.
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Trump - a puzzling enigma
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Death is the ultimate freedom.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:23 amHow free are dead people ?henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:02 am I agree that Atto should focus on policy
let's go there...
as I've said a few times: bein' a eleutheromaniac, I have a keener sense than most when freedom is gettin' the short shrift
anyone care to name anything ORANGE MAN has done in the past four years as prez that's eroded individual freedom?
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Re: Trump - a puzzling enigma
Y don't U state something rather than expecting people to do facewank stuff? Oh...in death there is freedom!Sculptor wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:19 pmDeath is the ultimate freedom.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:23 amHow free are dead people ?henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:02 am I agree that Atto should focus on policy
let's go there...
as I've said a few times: bein' a eleutheromaniac, I have a keener sense than most when freedom is gettin' the short shrift
anyone care to name anything ORANGE MAN has done in the past four years as prez that's eroded individual freedom?
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It's a bit late for that isn't it!!?vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:00 pmSee if Biden does any better...attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:23 amHow free are dead people ? or people suffering on ventilators in overcrowded hospitals ?henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:02 am I agree that Atto should focus on policy
let's go there...
as I've said a few times: bein' a eleutheromaniac, I have a keener sense than most when freedom is gettin' the short shrift
anyone care to name anything ORANGE MAN has done in the past four years as prez that's eroded individual freedom?
BECAUSE--->
1. Trump lied at the outset about how serious this pandemic is, Y - to KEEP IN with his supporter base.
2. Trump still refuses to deflate his ego enough to actually care about the state of the US nation in the middle of a pandemic and allow someone with ACTUAL leadership qualities attempt to tame a horse that TRUMP allowed to bolt - a fucking virus.
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How free are dead people ? or people suffering on ventilators in overcrowded hospitals ?
ask cuomo, deblasio, whitmer
1. Trump lied at the outset about how serious this pandemic is, Y - to KEEP IN with his supporter base.
as I recall: ORANGE MAN merely parroted what the great and powerful fauci said
irrelevant anyway: ORANGE MAN's lies were there on the table to be taken seriously or ignored...he never mandated diddly for any citizen, unlike cuomo and debalsio and whitmer and others who, by way of exec orders, killed a whole whack of old folks, wrecked livelihoods, and turned large segments of state populations into scaredy cats
no, ORANGE MAN, when it comes to beer virus, did nuthin' to blunt individual liberty
2. Trump still refuses to deflate his ego enough to actually care about the state of the US nation in the middle of a pandemic and allow someone with ACTUAL leadership qualities attempt to tame a horse that TRUMP allowed to bolt - a fucking virus.
even if ORANGE MAN were inclined to throw his weight around (see what I did there?), he can't override governors...he can offer assists (as he did, for example, in NY) but if state and municipal govs tell him to get bent (as several did) he can't do squat
smokin' joe, on the campaign trail, boasted how'd he have a national masking mandate...he was schooled quick on that, told sorry, joe, but you got no authority, as prez, to do such a thing...now, he sez he'll meet with governors and mayors to persuade them to implement or continue masking orders as well as implement a new 6 week national lockdown...joe and the dems now have to admit ORANGE MAN couldn't do any of these large, national strategies cuz they, by way of smokin' joe, can't do those large, national strategies
Inmates loading corona virus bodies into refrigerated trucks
yep: cuomo, deblasio, whitmer, etc. have a lot to answer for
(LAND OF THE FREE!!!!!)
yes, it is, and ORANGE MAN has largely done things to keep it that way, unlike the houseplant/whore who, in their individual careers, have largely done things to blunt freedom
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who else? anyone want to tell the world what ORANGE MAN, as prez, has done, or is doin', to blunt individual freedom?
anyone want to lay out the specifics of his tyranny?
ask cuomo, deblasio, whitmer
1. Trump lied at the outset about how serious this pandemic is, Y - to KEEP IN with his supporter base.
as I recall: ORANGE MAN merely parroted what the great and powerful fauci said
irrelevant anyway: ORANGE MAN's lies were there on the table to be taken seriously or ignored...he never mandated diddly for any citizen, unlike cuomo and debalsio and whitmer and others who, by way of exec orders, killed a whole whack of old folks, wrecked livelihoods, and turned large segments of state populations into scaredy cats
no, ORANGE MAN, when it comes to beer virus, did nuthin' to blunt individual liberty
2. Trump still refuses to deflate his ego enough to actually care about the state of the US nation in the middle of a pandemic and allow someone with ACTUAL leadership qualities attempt to tame a horse that TRUMP allowed to bolt - a fucking virus.
even if ORANGE MAN were inclined to throw his weight around (see what I did there?), he can't override governors...he can offer assists (as he did, for example, in NY) but if state and municipal govs tell him to get bent (as several did) he can't do squat
smokin' joe, on the campaign trail, boasted how'd he have a national masking mandate...he was schooled quick on that, told sorry, joe, but you got no authority, as prez, to do such a thing...now, he sez he'll meet with governors and mayors to persuade them to implement or continue masking orders as well as implement a new 6 week national lockdown...joe and the dems now have to admit ORANGE MAN couldn't do any of these large, national strategies cuz they, by way of smokin' joe, can't do those large, national strategies
Inmates loading corona virus bodies into refrigerated trucks
yep: cuomo, deblasio, whitmer, etc. have a lot to answer for
(LAND OF THE FREE!!!!!)
yes, it is, and ORANGE MAN has largely done things to keep it that way, unlike the houseplant/whore who, in their individual careers, have largely done things to blunt freedom
-----
who else? anyone want to tell the world what ORANGE MAN, as prez, has done, or is doin', to blunt individual freedom?
anyone want to lay out the specifics of his tyranny?
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Yes, that’s the idea. Let’s see what Biden can do.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:00 pmSee if Biden does any better...attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:23 amHow free are dead people ? or people suffering on ventilators in overcrowded hospitals ?henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:02 am I agree that Atto should focus on policy
let's go there...
as I've said a few times: bein' a eleutheromaniac, I have a keener sense than most when freedom is gettin' the short shrift
anyone care to name anything ORANGE MAN has done in the past four years as prez that's eroded individual freedom?
BECAUSE--->
1. Trump lied at the outset about how serious this pandemic is, Y - to KEEP IN with his supporter base.
2. Trump still refuses to deflate his ego enough to actually care about the state of the US nation in the middle of a pandemic and allow someone with ACTUAL leadership qualities attempt to tame a horse that TRUMP allowed to bolt - a fucking virus.
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Inmates loading corona virus bodies into refrigerated trucks (LAND OF THE FREE!!!!!)
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Re: Trump - a puzzling enigma
So you heap some blame on governors, Fauci and Biden. How does this exonerate Plump?henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:52 pm How free are dead people ? or people suffering on ventilators in overcrowded hospitals ?
ask cuomo, deblasio, whitmer
1. Trump lied at the outset about how serious this pandemic is, Y - to KEEP IN with his supporter base.
as I recall: ORANGE MAN merely parroted what the great and powerful fauci said
irrelevant anyway: ORANGE MAN's lies were there on the table to be taken seriously or ignored...he never mandated diddly for any citizen, unlike cuomo and debalsio and whitmer and others who, by way of exec orders, killed a whole whack of old folks, wrecked livelihoods, and turned large segments of state populations into scaredy cats
no, ORANGE MAN, when it comes to beer virus, did nuthin' to blunt individual liberty
2. Trump still refuses to deflate his ego enough to actually care about the state of the US nation in the middle of a pandemic and allow someone with ACTUAL leadership qualities attempt to tame a horse that TRUMP allowed to bolt - a fucking virus.
even if ORANGE MAN were inclined to throw his weight around (see what I did there?), he can't override governors...he can offer assists (as he did, for example, in NY) but if state and municipal govs tell him to get bent (as several did) he can't do squat
smokin' joe, on the campaign trail, boasted how'd he have a national masking mandate...he was schooled quick on that, told sorry, joe, but you got no authority, as prez, to do such a thing...now, he sez he'll meet with governors and mayors to persuade them to implement or continue masking orders as well as implement a new 6 week national lockdown...joe and the dems now have to admit ORANGE MAN couldn't do any of these large, national strategies cuz they, by way of smokin' joe, can't do those large, national strategies
Inmates loading corona virus bodies into refrigerated trucks
yep: cuomo, deblasio, whitmer, etc. have a lot to answer for
(LAND OF THE FREE!!!!!)
yes, it is, and ORANGE MAN has largely done things to keep it that way, unlike the houseplant/whore who, in their individual careers, have largely done things to blunt freedom
-----
who else? anyone want to tell the world what ORANGE MAN, as prez, has done, or is doin', to blunt individual freedom?
anyone want to lay out the specifics of his tyranny?
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governors issued exec orders, are still issuin' exec orders, that wreck livelihoods and hobble the lives of free peoplecommonsense wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:06 pmSo you heap some blame on governors, Fauci and Biden. How does this exonerate Plump?henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:52 pm How free are dead people ? or people suffering on ventilators in overcrowded hospitals ?
ask cuomo, deblasio, whitmer
1. Trump lied at the outset about how serious this pandemic is, Y - to KEEP IN with his supporter base.
as I recall: ORANGE MAN merely parroted what the great and powerful fauci said
irrelevant anyway: ORANGE MAN's lies were there on the table to be taken seriously or ignored...he never mandated diddly for any citizen, unlike cuomo and debalsio and whitmer and others who, by way of exec orders, killed a whole whack of old folks, wrecked livelihoods, and turned large segments of state populations into scaredy cats
no, ORANGE MAN, when it comes to beer virus, did nuthin' to blunt individual liberty
2. Trump still refuses to deflate his ego enough to actually care about the state of the US nation in the middle of a pandemic and allow someone with ACTUAL leadership qualities attempt to tame a horse that TRUMP allowed to bolt - a fucking virus.
even if ORANGE MAN were inclined to throw his weight around (see what I did there?), he can't override governors...he can offer assists (as he did, for example, in NY) but if state and municipal govs tell him to get bent (as several did) he can't do squat
smokin' joe, on the campaign trail, boasted how'd he have a national masking mandate...he was schooled quick on that, told sorry, joe, but you got no authority, as prez, to do such a thing...now, he sez he'll meet with governors and mayors to persuade them to implement or continue masking orders as well as implement a new 6 week national lockdown...joe and the dems now have to admit ORANGE MAN couldn't do any of these large, national strategies cuz they, by way of smokin' joe, can't do those large, national strategies
Inmates loading corona virus bodies into refrigerated trucks
yep: cuomo, deblasio, whitmer, etc. have a lot to answer for
(LAND OF THE FREE!!!!!)
yes, it is, and ORANGE MAN has largely done things to keep it that way, unlike the houseplant/whore who, in their individual careers, have largely done things to blunt freedom
-----
who else? anyone want to tell the world what ORANGE MAN, as prez, has done, or is doin', to blunt individual freedom?
anyone want to lay out the specifics of his tyranny?
fauci admitted he misled folks about masks
ORANGE MAN, within the context of the job, did what he could, and avoided doin' that which is unconstitutional
however: the floor is still open for any specific charges you want to levy
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You have not yet dismissed the charge at hand. So what if others committed greater offenses? So what if Crump did all he could? Atto’s example stands.henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:17 pmgovernors issued exec orders, are still issuin' exec orders, that wreck livelihoods and hobble the lives of free peoplecommonsense wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:06 pmSo you heap some blame on governors, Fauci and Biden. How does this exonerate Plump?henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:52 pm How free are dead people ? or people suffering on ventilators in overcrowded hospitals ?
ask cuomo, deblasio, whitmer
1. Trump lied at the outset about how serious this pandemic is, Y - to KEEP IN with his supporter base.
as I recall: ORANGE MAN merely parroted what the great and powerful fauci said
irrelevant anyway: ORANGE MAN's lies were there on the table to be taken seriously or ignored...he never mandated diddly for any citizen, unlike cuomo and debalsio and whitmer and others who, by way of exec orders, killed a whole whack of old folks, wrecked livelihoods, and turned large segments of state populations into scaredy cats
no, ORANGE MAN, when it comes to beer virus, did nuthin' to blunt individual liberty
2. Trump still refuses to deflate his ego enough to actually care about the state of the US nation in the middle of a pandemic and allow someone with ACTUAL leadership qualities attempt to tame a horse that TRUMP allowed to bolt - a fucking virus.
even if ORANGE MAN were inclined to throw his weight around (see what I did there?), he can't override governors...he can offer assists (as he did, for example, in NY) but if state and municipal govs tell him to get bent (as several did) he can't do squat
smokin' joe, on the campaign trail, boasted how'd he have a national masking mandate...he was schooled quick on that, told sorry, joe, but you got no authority, as prez, to do such a thing...now, he sez he'll meet with governors and mayors to persuade them to implement or continue masking orders as well as implement a new 6 week national lockdown...joe and the dems now have to admit ORANGE MAN couldn't do any of these large, national strategies cuz they, by way of smokin' joe, can't do those large, national strategies
Inmates loading corona virus bodies into refrigerated trucks
yep: cuomo, deblasio, whitmer, etc. have a lot to answer for
(LAND OF THE FREE!!!!!)
yes, it is, and ORANGE MAN has largely done things to keep it that way, unlike the houseplant/whore who, in their individual careers, have largely done things to blunt freedom
-----
who else? anyone want to tell the world what ORANGE MAN, as prez, has done, or is doin', to blunt individual freedom?
anyone want to lay out the specifics of his tyranny?
fauci admitted he misled folks about masks
ORANGE MAN, within the context of the job, did what he could, and avoided doin' that which is unconstitutional
however: the floor is still open for any specific charges you want to levy
You have to show that what was stated about Slump and the pandemic is unequivocally false. What others did is another story.
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no, atto's examples fall...commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:24 pmYou have not yet dismissed the charge at hand. So what if others committed greater offenses? So what if Crump did all he could? Atto’s example stands.henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:17 pmgovernors issued exec orders, are still issuin' exec orders, that wreck livelihoods and hobble the lives of free peoplecommonsense wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:06 pm
So you heap some blame on governors, Fauci and Biden. How does this exonerate Plump?
fauci admitted he misled folks about masks
ORANGE MAN, within the context of the job, did what he could, and avoided doin' that which is unconstitutional
however: the floor is still open for any specific charges you want to levy
You have to show that what was stated about Slump and the pandemic is unequivocally false. What others did is another story.
1. Trump lied at the outset about how serious this pandemic is, Y - to KEEP IN with his supporter base.
ORANGE MAN isn't the scientist...fauci & birx & the CDC & the WHO issued a lot of contradictory info includin' downplayin' beer virus at the start...when his advisors are all over the place, ORANGE MAN had to work with what he had
the thing about panderin' to the base: just opinion (unless you or atto can document it)
2. Trump still refuses to deflate his ego enough to actually care about the state of the US nation in the middle of a pandemic and allow someone with ACTUAL leadership qualities attempt to tame a horse that TRUMP allowed to bolt - a fucking virus.
ORANGE MAN has done, is doin', everytthing he's constitutionally allowed to do
what do you think the houseplant can do that ORANGE MAN hasn't?
in any event: this is all, again, irrelevent
I asked specifically what ORANGE MAN, as prez, has done to erode individual liberty and you folks ain't ponied up shit yet
but, as I say, the floor is open
Re: Trump - a puzzling enigma
Henry, poor old Donald Trump who would not listen to scientists. Why blame him? He was a product of his culture that prefers not to hear scientists.
Re: Trump - a puzzling enigma
I think not. US offers the freedom to get shot. The freedom to die of COVID.commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:01 pmYes, but not the kind of freedom that can result from policy. Not the kind of freedom being discussed.
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True. I hadn’t thought of it that way.Sculptor wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:10 pmI think not. US offers the freedom to get shot. The freedom to die of COVID.commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:01 pmYes, but not the kind of freedom that can result from policy. Not the kind of freedom being discussed.