I didn't think so.
nothing > chaos > coalescence > pattern > order > organization > evolution > consciousness > intelligence > agency > mathematicsI'm asking you about what YOU said.
nothing > intelligence > consciousness > agency > mathematics > pattern > order
It's right up there ^^ in green and purple: two alternate progressions from nothing to the present. Granted, the second sequence stops before the human use of mathematics,
order > Creation > Earth > man > numbers , since we only re-discovered it, after God had been was using it already.
In one scenario, chaos gradually gives rise to order, patterns and eventually, an intelligence capable of inventing numbers. This one is a mere speculative projection into the distant past, based on observations in the present. There is no absolute proof.
In the other, there is nothing and then there is an intelligence making something out of it.
To the people who swear by this version of events as a tenet of their faith, it's obvious [self-evident] that there must have been a God before there was anything else. I assumed that god must have been intelligent enough to understand mathematics, in order to create crystals, solar systems and RNA. Perhaps that doesn't follow from the faith.
Not precisely. I don't think anyone believes that this sort of things happens as a matter of course. According to theists; it just happened the one time.You said it's self-evident that "nothing" gives rise to "intelligence."
I thought so, too! But, then, I'm just an ignorant atheist.Now, on the face of it, that's a pretty wild claim.
Perhaps you can explain where that sequence of events is incorrect.