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Re: What or Who Are The Jinn? (Goddess Sarasvati's Riddle)
I'm in a house now. Every time I go out, there are people and things and others that I can see. But I cannot see them now. Neither can I see the ancients, nor the future generations, nor those who are far away. Neither can I see them nor can I feel them. It's easy to forget that they are real and should be respected.
Re: What or Who Are The Jinn? (Goddess Sarasvati's Riddle)
People as in those things that post stories on forums like this one.Age wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:33 pmOkay, so how do 'you' define the word 'people'?
By the way, I do not believe that also.
Because I was just acknowledging what you had said, so you should be asking yourself what you meant by that question not me.And, why did 'you' say; "you" 'has to' SEE? Why the necessary 'has to'?
Re: What or Who Are The Jinn? (Goddess Sarasvati's Riddle)
How do you define the word 'people'?Systematic wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:58 am I'm in a house now. Every time I go out, there are people and things and others that I can see. But I cannot see them now. Neither can I see the ancients, nor the future generations, nor those who are far away. Neither can I see them nor can I feel them. It's easy to forget that they are real and should be respected.
Re: What or Who Are The Jinn? (Goddess Sarasvati's Riddle)
Are they visible, with the human eye/s?
But I ALREADY KNEW and KNOW, exactly AND specifically, what I meant by that question.
Also, I NEVER mentioned that one 'has to' SEE any thing, at all. So, you were NOT acknowledging at all what I had actually said.
I said, 'then you will SEE just how 'people', themselves, ARE NOT VISIBLE,'
Just because you can and/or will do some thing, then that in no way infers that it 'has to' be done.
For example, if you LEARN that 2 + 2 = 4, then you will SEE that 2 + 2 = 4. So, although AFTER you have SEEN some thing, which, in a sense, means it 'has to' be SEEN, but this is ONLY AFTER you have learned some thing, FIRST. There is still NO necessary that there 'has to' to be LEARNING, in the first place.
So, there is NO necessity for you to LEARN what I am actually stating, and meaning. But, if you EVER do get to LEARN what I actually mean, then you you WILL SEE what I actually stating.
Re: What or Who Are The Jinn? (Goddess Sarasvati's Riddle)
I don’t want to learn what you are actually stating and meaning, I don’t give a toss what you say about the Jinn...I’ve already got my own truth about the Jinn subject.Age wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:47 pmAre they visible, with the human eye/s?
But I ALREADY KNEW and KNOW, exactly AND specifically, what I meant by that question.
Also, I NEVER mentioned that one 'has to' SEE any thing, at all. So, you were NOT acknowledging at all what I had actually said.
I said, 'then you will SEE just how 'people', themselves, ARE NOT VISIBLE,'
Just because you can and/or will do some thing, then that in no way infers that it 'has to' be done.
For example, if you LEARN that 2 + 2 = 4, then you will SEE that 2 + 2 = 4. So, although AFTER you have SEEN some thing, which, in a sense, means it 'has to' be SEEN, but this is ONLY AFTER you have learned some thing, FIRST. There is still NO necessary that there 'has to' to be LEARNING, in the first place.
So, there is NO necessity for you to LEARN what I am actually stating, and meaning. But, if you EVER do get to LEARN what I actually mean, then you you WILL SEE what I actually stating.
And bye the way, I don’t agree or believe what you know and believe about the Jinn. And that’s all I have to say to you on the matter.
People are visible to the human eyes in the same context a tree is visible to the human eye.Are they visible, with the human eye/s?
What a stupid question you ask me, but then everything you say is stupid in my humble opinion.
Re: What or Who Are The Jinn? (Goddess Sarasvati's Riddle)
Age wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:44 pmbahman wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:24 pmLuxin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:01 am
[ Goddess Sarasvati ]
The background information you may need to answer this is at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinn and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucket_and_cone
They can't be seen
but they are real;
With hands these things
we cannot feel.
[ Goddess Sarasvati ]
What or who are the jinn?
Luxin says, " If you solve this our hats will be off to you forever ! "
The Beloved
slipped through
the cracks;
The deceiver got stuck.
The best of all true things
Is a true heart.
Without truth no happiness,
though you try
a million tricks.
(Sakhi 64, Kabir)
There is an spiritual reality different from our universe containing creatures who knows everything.
Who and/or what is the 'our' in "our universe", and, how does this 'thing' supposedly 'own' 'its universe'?
I mean the universe that we are living in it.
The reality has infinite folds one of them being our universe and others being spiritual reality.
I know many many.
True.
What do you mean? I am not talking with them yet they are able to read my mind and respond properply.
Other minds who are more knowledgeable than I am.
Many and many. Perhaps I encounder 1000 of them.
Mind is an irreducible substance with ability to experience and cause.
I don't know how they can read my mind. Content of my mind seems personal.
Ok.
What is the turth?
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Re: What or Who Are The Jinn? (Goddess Sarasvati's Riddle)
the plural of a personAge wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:13 pmHow do you define the word 'people'?Systematic wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:58 am I'm in a house now. Every time I go out, there are people and things and others that I can see. But I cannot see them now. Neither can I see the ancients, nor the future generations, nor those who are far away. Neither can I see them nor can I feel them. It's easy to forget that they are real and should be respected.
Re: What or Who Are The Jinn? (Goddess Sarasvati's Riddle)
That is CLEARLY OBVIOUS.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:08 pmI don’t want to learn what you are actually stating and meaning,Age wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:47 pmAre they visible, with the human eye/s?
But I ALREADY KNEW and KNOW, exactly AND specifically, what I meant by that question.
Also, I NEVER mentioned that one 'has to' SEE any thing, at all. So, you were NOT acknowledging at all what I had actually said.
I said, 'then you will SEE just how 'people', themselves, ARE NOT VISIBLE,'
Just because you can and/or will do some thing, then that in no way infers that it 'has to' be done.
For example, if you LEARN that 2 + 2 = 4, then you will SEE that 2 + 2 = 4. So, although AFTER you have SEEN some thing, which, in a sense, means it 'has to' be SEEN, but this is ONLY AFTER you have learned some thing, FIRST. There is still NO necessary that there 'has to' to be LEARNING, in the first place.
So, there is NO necessity for you to LEARN what I am actually stating, and meaning. But, if you EVER do get to LEARN what I actually mean, then you you WILL SEE what I actually stating.
And you do NOT want to learn BECAUSE you BELIEVE you ALREADY KNOW what thee Truth IS.
Although you OPENLY ADMIT that thee Truth can NOT be explained in words, which some will say is just an OBVIOUS reaction to 'you' NOT knowing what thee Truth actually IS.
I don’t give a toss what you say about the Jinn...I’ve already got my own truth about the Jinn subject.
And bye the way, I don’t agree or believe what you know and believe about the Jinn. And that’s all I have to say to you on the matter.
Okay. But besides this actually contradicting and opposing what is actually True, If this is what you BELIEVE is true, then so be it.
One reason EVERYTHING I, supposedly, say is stupid, to you, is because you have absolutely NO Interest at all in learning more nor in gaining a better understanding.
By the way, you have just CONTRADICTED what you have said previously, ONCE AGAIN.
Re: What or Who Are The Jinn? (Goddess Sarasvati's Riddle)
I asked 'you' a CLEARLY written clarifying question, and you respond by answering some thing, which I NEVER asked, and which has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL to do with the ACTUAL question I asked.
I have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what you wrote here means, especially considering what you wrote here has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with what I actually asked you.
Besides the fact that you, once again, did NOT answer my clarifying question, posed to you, what you wrote here does not even make sense. Unless, of course, you can explain HOW it does make sense.
In regards to 'what', EXACTLY?
Okay. I will TRY AGAIN. Who or what is 'them'?
So, to you, what other species have, so called, "minds", which are more knowledgeable than 'you', human beings, are?
Are you at all able to elaborate on this?
If yes, then will you?
If, as you propose it seems 'personal', then it seems rather contradictory that many and many "others" can read that one.
'That' what is agreed upon and accepted. OBVIOUSLY.
Re: What or Who Are The Jinn? (Goddess Sarasvati's Riddle)
How do you define the word 'person'?Systematic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:04 amthe plural of a personAge wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:13 pmHow do you define the word 'people'?Systematic wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:58 am I'm in a house now. Every time I go out, there are people and things and others that I can see. But I cannot see them now. Neither can I see the ancients, nor the future generations, nor those who are far away. Neither can I see them nor can I feel them. It's easy to forget that they are real and should be respected.
Re: What or Who Are The Jinn? (Goddess Sarasvati's Riddle)
I have absolutely no idea what the actual truth is except what I make up about ISAGE:
Although you OPENLY ADMIT that thee Truth can NOT be explained in words, which some will say is just an OBVIOUS reaction to 'you' NOT knowing what thee Truth actually IS.
Although it is clear and self evident that IS is without doubt or error, and that there is no requirement or need to make up a story about IS....but if a description does apparently arise then that’s just a conceptual overlay upon this NOT KNOWING ISNESS...known as an imaginary idea.
AS for the rest of your comments, they have not captured my imagination enough to respond to them, I’m not really partial to wasting time on dealing with repetitive jargon and dogma from imbeciles.
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Re: What or Who Are The Jinn? (Goddess Sarasvati's Riddle)
Luxin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:01 am
[ Goddess Sarasvati ]
The background information you may need to answer this is at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinn and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucket_and_cone
They can't be seen
but they are real;
With hands these things
we cannot feel.
[ Goddess Sarasvati ]
What or who are the jinn?
Luxin says, " If you solve this our hats will be off to you forever ! "
The Beloved
slipped through
the cracks;
The deceiver got stuck.
the jinn are demons of the desert, refer to Islam.
The best of all true things
Is a true heart.
Without truth no happiness,
though you try
a million tricks.
(Sakhi 64, Kabir)
Re: What or Who Are The Jinn? (Goddess Sarasvati's Riddle)
Luxin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:01 am
[ Goddess Sarasvati ]
The background information you may need to answer this is at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinn and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucket_and_cone
They can't be seen
but they are real;
With hands these things
we cannot feel.
[ Goddess Sarasvati ]
What or who are the jinn?
Luxin says, " If you solve this our hats will be off to you forever ! "
The Beloved
slipped through
the cracks;
The deceiver got stuck.
The best of all true things
Is a true heart.
Without truth no happiness,
though you try
a million tricks.
(Sakhi 64, Kabir)
the jinn are demons of the desert, refer to Islam.