not sure what your point is
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henry quirk
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okay, then...
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henry quirk
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henry quirk
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Re: irony
Sorry. I mean that if the man has done time for his previous crimes those crimes should not be used against him, by policemen or judges. If on the other hand these crimes are added on to a list of crimes that he has not been punished for then the backlog of crimes has to be dealt with too.henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:08 pmnot sure what your point is
It's fact that policemen are prejudiced against black men.
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Immanuel Can
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Re: irony
Apparently not. There's actually zero evidence for that, and a lot of evidence to the contrary, in fact.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQCQFH5wOJo
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henry quirk
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Re: irony
Sorry. I mean that if the man has done time for his previous crimes those crimes should not be used against him, by policemen or judges. If on the other hand these crimes are added on to a list of crimes that he has not been punished for then the backlog of crimes has to be dealt with too.
if joe is a convicted pedo his conviction ought not be considered if he's tried for, say, armed robbery, yeah?
why?
seems to me: a man's history sez sumthin' about him
It's fact that policemen are prejudiced against black men.
evidence, please
if joe is a convicted pedo his conviction ought not be considered if he's tried for, say, armed robbery, yeah?
why?
seems to me: a man's history sez sumthin' about him
It's fact that policemen are prejudiced against black men.
evidence, please
Re: irony
Yes, of course. i should have said "some policemen" actually institutional bullying of black people is more worrying than the occasional bad apple.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:34 pmApparently not. There's actually zero evidence for that, and a lot of evidence to the contrary, in fact.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQCQFH5wOJo
Re: irony
Convicted paedophiles are put on a register, as paedophilia is reckoned to be a permanent state of the personality.henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:46 pm Sorry. I mean that if the man has done time for his previous crimes those crimes should not be used against him, by policemen or judges. If on the other hand these crimes are added on to a list of crimes that he has not been punished for then the backlog of crimes has to be dealt with too.
if joe is a convicted pedo his conviction ought not be considered if he's tried for, say, armed robbery, yeah?
why?
seems to me: a man's history sez sumthin' about him
It's fact that policemen are prejudiced against black men.
evidence, please
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Immanuel Can
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Re: irony
Which ones? Are you supposing, for example, the policemen who may have mishandled the G. Floyd situation actually were sitting in a donut shop five minutes before, and one of them said, "Tell ye what, boys...let's go get us a black guy."Belinda wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:48 pmYes, of course. i should have said "some policemen"...Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:34 pmApparently not. There's actually zero evidence for that, and a lot of evidence to the contrary, in fact.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQCQFH5wOJo
That's what you think happened?
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Immanuel Can
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Re: irony
That is because paedophelia is clinically incurable. It can only be suppressed, not eliminated, by the methods we currently possess. Paedophiles remain a danger. Like alcoholics, they must keep themselves, or be kept, from the source of their temptation, or they relapse.
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henry quirk
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Re: irony
all true and all beside the pointImmanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:59 pmThat is because paedophelia is clinically incurable. It can only be suppressed, not eliminated, by the methods we currently possess. Paedophiles remain a danger. Like alcoholics, they must keep themselves, or be kept, from the source of their temptation, or they relapse.
again: a man's history sez sumthin' about him...his choices (or afflictions) are a kind of definition
it's dumb to suggest that history ought to ignored, that a man should stand as a blank slate
joe is accused of X: the trial ain't about X, it's about determinin' if Joe did X
his history (as blameless, as criminal) is relevant
innocent till proven guilty doesn't mean ignore the facts of a man's life
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Immanuel Can
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Re: irony
In the case of paedophilia, this seems to be quite true. Once people cross that line, then short of a miracle, they don't seem to go back. The bad choice to cross the line becomes a definition.henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:49 pm again: a man's history sez sumthin' about him...his choices (or afflictions) are a kind of definition
