Defunding Police
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Maybe the gopher hole cannot be compared to the common cold. Maybe there’s no way to save the sinking house, yet cancer is treatable with the possibility of remission or cure.
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you really wanna put the kibosh on out of control cops?
make 'em liable, civilly & criminally, for their misdeeds just as I, a private citizen, am
strip away immunities and extraordinary protections
watch how good cops become when they have no buffer
and while your at it...
have elected folks abide by the laws they pass
strip away their exemptions
watch laws become sensible and minimal when lawmakers have to walk the same road as us lil people
and, since we're reachin' for the pie up there in the sky...
end all entitlements except for a narrow, sharply defined, limited assist for those who actually need a hand up
do that and watch black on black crime drop
more...
decriminalize drugs
free men and women ought to be able to eat, drink, smoke, snort, or inject whatever they like and bear the consequences fully
do that: you break the back of organized crime, remove an incentive for tribal behavior, and -- without even tryin' -- cut the budget of any law enforcement significantly
some more...
encourage responsible gun ownership among law abiders
see communism for the cancer it is
encourage free enterprise
reinvigorate the notion of mind your business, keep your hands to yourself, or else
recognize identity politics as the crapsack it is
encourage idiosyncrasy among the states (within the broad boundaries of Life, Liberty, Property)
there's more, but mebbe you get the idea (freedom [self-direction & self- responsibility] is the answer to all the woes)
make 'em liable, civilly & criminally, for their misdeeds just as I, a private citizen, am
strip away immunities and extraordinary protections
watch how good cops become when they have no buffer
and while your at it...
have elected folks abide by the laws they pass
strip away their exemptions
watch laws become sensible and minimal when lawmakers have to walk the same road as us lil people
and, since we're reachin' for the pie up there in the sky...
end all entitlements except for a narrow, sharply defined, limited assist for those who actually need a hand up
do that and watch black on black crime drop
more...
decriminalize drugs
free men and women ought to be able to eat, drink, smoke, snort, or inject whatever they like and bear the consequences fully
do that: you break the back of organized crime, remove an incentive for tribal behavior, and -- without even tryin' -- cut the budget of any law enforcement significantly
some more...
encourage responsible gun ownership among law abiders
see communism for the cancer it is
encourage free enterprise
reinvigorate the notion of mind your business, keep your hands to yourself, or else
recognize identity politics as the crapsack it is
encourage idiosyncrasy among the states (within the broad boundaries of Life, Liberty, Property)
there's more, but mebbe you get the idea (freedom [self-direction & self- responsibility] is the answer to all the woes)
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All this would be wonderful.henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:26 pm you really wanna put the kibosh on out of control cops?
make 'em liable, civilly & criminally, for their misdeeds just as I, a private citizen, am
strip away immunities and extraordinary protections
watch how good cops become when they have no buffer
and while your at it...
have elected folks abide by the laws they pass
strip away their exemptions
watch laws become sensible and minimal when lawmakers have to walk the same road as us lil people
and, since we're reachin' for the pie up there in the sky...
end all entitlements except for a narrow, sharply defined, limited assist for those who actually need a hand up
do that and watch black on black crime drop
more...
decriminalize drugs
free men and women ought to be able to eat, drink, smoke, snort, or inject whatever they like and bear the consequences fully
do that: you break the back of organized crime, remove an incentive for tribal behavior, and -- without even tryin' -- cut the budget of any law enforcement significantly
some more...
encourage responsible gun ownership among law abiders
see communism for the cancer it is
encourage free enterprise
reinvigorate the notion of mind your business, keep your hands to yourself, or else
recognize identity politics as the crapsack it is
encourage idiosyncrasy among the states (within the broad boundaries of Life, Liberty, Property)
there's more, but mebbe you get the idea (freedom [self-direction & self- responsibility] is the answer to all the woes)
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yepcommonsense wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:29 pmAll this would be wonderful.henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:26 pm you really wanna put the kibosh on out of control cops?
make 'em liable, civilly & criminally, for their misdeeds just as I, a private citizen, am
strip away immunities and extraordinary protections
watch how good cops become when they have no buffer
and while your at it...
have elected folks abide by the laws they pass
strip away their exemptions
watch laws become sensible and minimal when lawmakers have to walk the same road as us lil people
and, since we're reachin' for the pie up there in the sky...
end all entitlements except for a narrow, sharply defined, limited assist for those who actually need a hand up
do that and watch black on black crime drop
more...
decriminalize drugs
free men and women ought to be able to eat, drink, smoke, snort, or inject whatever they like and bear the consequences fully
do that: you break the back of organized crime, remove an incentive for tribal behavior, and -- without even tryin' -- cut the budget of any law enforcement significantly
some more...
encourage responsible gun ownership among law abiders
see communism for the cancer it is
encourage free enterprise
reinvigorate the notion of mind your business, keep your hands to yourself, or else
recognize identity politics as the crapsack it is
encourage idiosyncrasy among the states (within the broad boundaries of Life, Liberty, Property)
there's more, but mebbe you get the idea (freedom [self-direction & self- responsibility] is the answer to all the woes)
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Sounds good to me too!
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it should sound wonderful to everyoneLacewing wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:10 pmSounds good to me too!
so: why don't we have any of it?
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I would say it’s because not all people are inherently able to participate in that kind of freedom.henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:55 pmit should sound wonderful to everyone
so: why don't we have any of it?
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Maybe because there are a lot of stupid and corrupt people in positions of power, and even more stupid people and corrupt organizations who put them there, while some stupid people still promote archaic imaginary beliefs and support other corrupt organizations, and a bunch of hateful people disrupt and destroy everything they can. Makes it kind of hard to organize anything that honors and makes sense for the average person.henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:55 pmit should sound wonderful to everyone
so: why don't we have any of it?
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which people, and why can't they be free?commonsense wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:49 pmI would say it’s because not all people are inherently able to participate in that kind of freedom.henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:55 pmit should sound wonderful to everyone
so: why don't we have any of it?
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if we leave off the rest of your tripe and focus on this...Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:18 pmMaybe because there are a lot of stupid and corrupt people in positions of power, and even more stupid people and corrupt organizations who put them there, while some stupid people still promote archaic imaginary beliefs and support other corrupt organizations, and a bunch of hateful people disrupt and destroy everything they can. Makes it kind of hard to organize anything that honors and makes sense for the average person.henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:55 pmit should sound wonderful to everyone
so: why don't we have any of it?
positions of power
...then we've cozied up nice and tight to the reason we don't have any of it
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There's more to it than that. Why do we have to focus on your small-minded view as if it's the fucking center of the Universe of reason and logic? You're not that smart or accurate, Henry.henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:17 am if we leave off the rest of your tripe and focus on this...
positions of power
...then we've cozied up nice and tight to the reason we don't have any of it
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trueLacewing wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:33 amThere's more to it than that. Why do we have to focus on your small-minded view as if it's the fucking center of the Universe of reason and logic? You're not that smart or accurate, Henry.henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:17 am if we leave off the rest of your tripe and focus on this...
positions of power
...then we've cozied up nice and tight to the reason we don't have any of it
I await your oh-so accurate & smart assessments of the more to it
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I already described it -- which you dismissed -- probably because you suspect I would fit you into that description. Do you seriously NOT THINK there are a whole lot of stupid people and corrupt organizations that have got us to the point we're at? Leadership and positions of power are born from that!henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:40 amtrueLacewing wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:33 amThere's more to it than that. Why do we have to focus on your small-minded view as if it's the fucking center of the Universe of reason and logic? You're not that smart or accurate, Henry.henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:17 am if we leave off the rest of your tripe and focus on this...
positions of power
...then we've cozied up nice and tight to the reason we don't have any of it
I await your oh-so accurate & smart assessments of the more to it
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let's review...Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:57 amI already described it -- which you dismissed -- probably because you suspect I would fit you into that description. Do you seriously NOT THINK there are a whole lot of stupid people and corrupt organizations that have got us to the point we're at? Leadership and positions of power are born from that!henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:40 amtrue
I await your oh-so accurate & smart assessments of the more to it
Maybe because there are a lot of stupid and corrupt people in positions of power, and even more stupid people and corrupt organizations who put them there, while some stupid people still promote archaic imaginary beliefs and support other corrupt organizations, and a bunch of hateful people disrupt and destroy everything they can. Makes it kind of hard to organize anything that honors and makes sense for the average person.
so, your oh-so accurate & smart assessment is...
stupid people and corrupt organizations put stupid and corrupt people in positions of power
stupid people believe imaginary things and support corrupt organizations that validate those beliefs
hateful people break stuff
yeah, it all makes perfect sense...if you're in kindergarten
into the penalty box, you twit
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What is NOT correct about what I've said? YOU HAVEN'T EVEN COME UP WITH AN EXPLANATION!!! It's so LIKE you to criticize ideas when you can't even fucking come up with your own answers -- like a coward who spews whatever childish garbage fascinates him, and then wonders why everything is so toxic.henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:16 amlet's review...Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:57 amI already described it -- which you dismissed -- probably because you suspect I would fit you into that description. Do you seriously NOT THINK there are a whole lot of stupid people and corrupt organizations that have got us to the point we're at? Leadership and positions of power are born from that!henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:40 am
true
I await your oh-so accurate & smart assessments of the more to it
Maybe because there are a lot of stupid and corrupt people in positions of power, and even more stupid people and corrupt organizations who put them there, while some stupid people still promote archaic imaginary beliefs and support other corrupt organizations, and a bunch of hateful people disrupt and destroy everything they can. Makes it kind of hard to organize anything that honors and makes sense for the average person.
so, your oh-so accurate & smart assessment is...
stupid people and corrupt organizations put stupid and corrupt people in positions of power
stupid people believe imaginary things and support corrupt organizations that validate those beliefs
hateful people break stuff
yeah, it all makes perfect sense...if you're in kindergarten
into the penalty box, you twit