uwot wrote: ↑Mon May 25, 2020 11:41 am
Well if it's my greater ignorance you wish to demonstrate, that's not a good start Skepdick; it's not either or. False dichotomy and all that.
I don't wish to demonstrate YOUR ignorance. Pay attention.
I wish to determine your ignorance relative to mine. As far as I can tell I am at the height of ignorance. Being an agnostic and all.
Either you are at my level of ignorance (agnosticism), or you aren't.
uwot wrote: ↑Mon May 25, 2020 11:41 am
For all I know that may be true, but I don't believe it, you simply don't have the temperament nor communication skills that most people in powerful positions can at least fake.
Have you considered the alternative hypothesis?
You don't speak my language, therefore you can't determine if I am telling "the truth".
How is it that:
1. I lack the communication skills.
2. You've heard what I am communicating and you are assessing its truth-value?
Do you even understand what communication is and how it works?
I bet you don't!
uwot wrote: ↑Mon May 25, 2020 11:41 am
The thing is you are demonstrably a liar and a cheat who will rip the heart out of the truth until it says what you want it to.
That is EXACTLY how communication works! That's exactly how "being heard" works! I make words mean exactly what I want them to mean. It's a feature, not a bug. We are quantum systems: quantum communication would be literally impossible without error correction.
You are defending reality, truth or some other abstract idea, and in your religious devotion you forget that the reason people speak to each other is so that they can COMMUNICATE.
Truth doesn't need a knights in shining armor.