It is the same with my original.Justintruth wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:39 amThe problem is you have to prove that something that is impossible to be empirical is impossible to be real else you have:Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:50 am Here is an argument, Why God is an Impossibility to be real.
There are two types of perfection for philosophical consideration, i.e.1. Relative perfection
- 1. Relative perfection
2. Absolute perfection
If one's answers in an objective tests are ALL correct that is a 100% perfect score.
Perfect scores 10/10 or 7/7 used to be given to extra-ordinary performance in diving, gymnastics, skating, and the likes. So perfection from the relative perspective can happen and exist within man-made systems of empirically-based measurements.
2. Absolute perfection
Absolute perfection is an idea, ideal, and it is only a thought that can arise from pure reason and never the empirical at all.
Absolute perfection is an impossibility in the empirical, thus exist only theoretically.
Examples are perfect circle, square, triangle, etc.
Generally, perfection is attributed to God. Any god with less than perfect attributes would be subjected to being inferior to another's god.
As such, God has to be absolutely perfect which is the ontological god, i.e. god is a Being than which no greater can be conceived.
So,
- P1. Absolute perfection is an impossibility to be real
P2. God, imperatively must be absolutely perfect
C. Therefore God is an impossibility to be real.
Can any theist or non-theist counter the above?
So,As you have written it it's wrong. As I have written it I think it is correct.
- P1. Absolute perfection is an impossibility to be empirical
P2. God, imperatively must be absolutely perfect
C. Therefore God is an impossibility to be empirical.
As I had mentioned 'what is real' is within the general paradigm of 'what is real', i.e. that it is able to be justified empirically [Science] and philosophical [critical thinking and wisdom]. Thus I included 'real' in the premise but explained its basis in the details to support the syllogism/model.
Science is the the most objective knowledge of reality [say 90% confidence level] and the rest of 9.99% will be covered by critical thinking and wisdom [the essence of philosophy].