"Dying as a muslim, which pleases Allah/God", just means that that one has passed on leaving to the next generation a "world" that is Truly at peace.Averroes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:43 pmDying as a Muslim in a state/condition that is pleasing to Allah, the Almighty. For example, like the death of prophet David(pbuh). When the Angel of Death came to Prophet David(pbuh), the latter welcomed him, and was ready to die on the spot. Or like the future death of Angel Gabriel (pbuh), who will die in prostration to Allah, the Almighty. These are the deaths that I aspire to, and I always ask Allah, the Most Merciful in my prayers for a good death and not a shameful return.
Obviously, whenever any and every person that dies, in the days of when this is being written, passes on a "world" in turmoil and certainly not a "world of peace". So, no matter if one calls them self a "muslim" in this day and age, when this is written, they are not leaving this "place" in a state/condition that is pleasing Allah/God at all. You can ask from any one you like for any thing you like. But, be forewarned any time you ask for any thing that is for you only, or for a select few only, then that does NOT please Allah/God at all, and what you will actually get is the exact very opposite of what you are asking for.
By the way, there is NO thing nor NO one that is going to give you some thing. If 'you', as an adult human being, want some thing, then you have to do what it takes to get it yourself. So, if you want to die a Truly happy person in a Truly Loving way, then you will have to do all it takes to help in the creating of a Truly Peaceful "world" for Everyone, and not just for some.
The main reason WHY through religionS the "world" is in a far worse way is because ALL religionS only seek out and want what is best for only those ones who follow that particular religion. So, in that sense religion's', with an 's', can be seen as being one of the roots of all evil in the "world". However, a so called "religion", with no 's', that is one way of living, which is being VOLUNTARILY followed by absolutely EVERY one, and which is One "religion" that is Self-guiding, Self-governing, and thus just Self-wanted anyway, then that is just the One and only "religion", if there is one, anyway. (By the way I do not like the word "religion" but for lack of knowing a better word now I just used the "religion" word.)
Maybe the word 'way' is better. The 'way' (''religion'') that is wanted by EVERY one that leads to getting EVERY one what they Truly want and desire anyway is the 'way' ("religion") to follow, and be led by. Any 'way's' (or "religion's") with an 's' is the WRONG way/religion. But thee 'way' ("religion") without any 's' that EVERY one wants, agrees with, and accepts anyway, is the Truly One and only WAY ("religion").
(Sorry "lacewing" I know how much you hate this, but these are just the views from within this head, which I am sharing now. I will not change the views I have just to please some of the people, any time.)
You can ask from any one you like for any thing you like. But, be forewarned any time you ask for any thing that is for you only, or for a select few only, then that does NOT please Allah/God at all, and what you will actually get is the exact very opposite of what you are asking for.Averroes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:35 amIf that be so, then examples of shameful deaths in my judgement are: the death of Pharaoh, the death of Nimrod, and the future death of Satan, the cursed, among others. And I ask Allah, the Almighty to preserve me, the Muslims and my loved ones from such deaths.
Also, why do you ask for only those people? Why not ALL people?
And what this means from Allah/God's perspective is that ONLY the 'way' that ANY one would and wants to follow VOLUNTARILY is the ONLY True and Right 'way'. When it is discovered that there is actually One 'way', (sorry "lacewing") in which absolutely EVERY one does want to naturally follow W/HOLLY VOLUNTARILY anyway, then that way is thee One and ONLY 'way' that ALL "religion's" are Truly SEEKING and wanting to be Truly adhering to anyway.Averroes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:35 amThis is a very good question, thank you for asking that.
In Islam, I am forbidden by my Lord, the Almighty from imposing Islam on anyone, as Allah says in the following verse in the Holy Quran that there is no compulsion in religion:
That also means that I cannot impose what I consider to be good and bad on other people who do not share in my faith.
- There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in Taghut (the Rebel, the Satan) and believes in Allah, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And Allah is All-Hearer, All-Knower. [Quran, interpretation of meaning 2:256]
EVERY one wants and has faith in PEACE, but it is from human's hand that different versions of "religion's" are formed and made and it is through this separating process where peace is not taught and followed, but the exact opposite is taught and followed. The Truly unintended consequences of forming DIFFERENT religion's is that this is 'evil' in action, and not 'peace' at all.
Obviously, the DIFFERENCES in all 'religion's' is human made, this happens because people put their own 'spin' on what thee One and only actual Truth IS. This happens completely unintentionally because of the previous past experiences, which has influenced them to LOOK AT and SEE things from a 'distorted' perspective and it is this 'distortion' that has put one's own 'spin', in religion.
Peace is the EXACT SAME in ALL religion's and the driving force and reason behind WHY all religion's, but the reason WHY ALL previously religion's up to now, when this is written do not work, is because they are written and formed BY only a few, which tended to be men, by the way. Thus, Allah/God being wrongly labelled a "he". These religion's were also written FOR only a few, as well, which is why they have never worked and will never work.
Yes. I see an example of the worshiping, the concept, of satan, from Allah/God's perspective, right here in your own words. You are desperately seeking a so called "good death" for yourself. Just like in that other religion labeled "christian" the followers are taught to seek forgiveness in order to get a "good death" for themselves also.Averroes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:35 amFor example, as I already said, I consider the conditions in which Pharaoh and Nimrod died to be shameful, but not everyone will share my point of view. So for the latter people, I cannot impose on them my belief of what I consider to be shameful by asking for them to be preserved from something they might not consider bad! For example, some people might consider the destiny of Pharaoh to be good, thus if I were to ask for them to be preserved from the shameful death of Pharaoh, then I would be imposing my beliefs on them. Another example as I already said is the future death of Satan, the cursed which I consider to be utterly shameful and disgraceful. You must already know that there are many people nowadays who, in the exercise of their freedom of conscience, are openly worshiping Satan, the cursed.
From Allah/God's perspective, How greedy can you human beings get? What actually turns out to be more important to 'you', adult human beings, in the days of when this is written, is what happens to 'YOU' when 'you' die? 'you' are ALL far more to concerned about what happens to 'you' in "death", then you are about what happens to your children in 'Life'.
You are so worried and concerned about your own death, that you do not care about the actual life you leave for your children. 'you', adult human beings, have become so concerned, and so worried about 'you' that you have forgotten what Life is all about. Or, for most of 'you', you never even learned what 'Life' is about yet.
The 'afterlife', from Allah/God's perspective, is just in relation to what 'life' that is left for your offspring 'after' you die, and pass on, to your children.
There is obviously only One Life, and when a human body stops breathing and stops pumping blood, then that body just decays, and goes back to the earth as dust to dust, or as ashes to ashes, if it happens to be cremated. There is obviously NOT some other place, nor some other "world" that any one could go to. There is ONLY this One and only Universe, from which one never really leaves.
Human beings do not "pass on" and go somewhere else, when they die. Adult human beings 'pass on' and leave the "world", in which they created, for their children. Life is about doing what is right and good for children, the future off-spring of the species. Life, and living, is about the SPECIES, the children, and not at all about any individual one of the species. But WHY some people beginning worshiping individuals of a species is because they have mistaken that the One, which is meant to be, and I hate to use the term, "worshiped", because of the negative connotation that can be related to it, is the one known as Allah/God, which in the Truest sense is just one's own True Self, which is just the collective One of ALL of us.
Following and being guided by one's own Conscience, God/Allah, then that one is voluntarily doing what they Truly want anyway.
EVERY 'false god' is any one/any thing other than one's own True Self. Obviously if one is not being their True Self, then they are just being false anyway. And, if one is choosing, following, or worshiping any thing or any one other than their True Self, then they have chosen to follow and be led by a 'false god'.
You re-repeating the same thing about three or four times appears that you are 'trying to' impose your beliefs on me anyway.Averroes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:35 amAs a last example, as I said, I consider the future death of Angel Gabriel to be a great death. Angel Gabriel(pbuh) will die in prostration to Allah, the Almighty. There are many people who do not want to worship and prostrate to Allah, the Almighty. So for these people I cannot impose on them something that they are continually refusing to do by asking for them what I consider to be a good death. Would you want me to impose my beliefs on you?
By the way, and to be truthful I have absolutely no idea nor clue at all what this "death of such and such", "future death of some labeled angel", "dying in prostration to Allah" means at all. But this is probably because I have not had much to do with the quran at all.
If thee Truth be known Allah/God does NOT want human beings to form nor to have any beliefs at all, anyway, because of the detrimental effect they have on all of you. Let alone 'you', human beings, imposing your own personal beliefs onto others.
Asking people to come and join your own personal religion and to come and believe what you do is NOT being humble at all. In fact Allah/God does NOT want any person to follow nor to listen to absolutely any thing other than what they already KNOW is True and Right deep within their own Self.
God/Allah only wants people to listen to their own True Self, and NEVER telling anyone else what is True and Right. Now this is being what 'humble' means.
We still have a LONG way to go yet.