surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:47 pm
Age wrote:
Instead of just LOOKING AT and STUDYING the physical brain itself which is just another organ that is just made up of particles of matter I found
that by just LOOKING AT the thoughts themselves in ones own head as they say FROM thee Truly OPEN perspective and thus inadvertently
STUDYING thoughts themselves and a self also then this is HOW actually discovering and KNOWING HOW the Mind and the brain work now
This is indeed how you can learn more about how the brain works
Okay, so what has actually been learned from LOOKING AT the physical brain directly from and through magnetic resonance imagining, besides;
1. There is "electromagnetic activity".
2. There is "firing of neuron activity".
What else has actually been learned, which is NOT just an ASSUMPTION?
surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:47 pmThere is also more that you can do as well - you can share your findings with others who are also learning about the brain works
I am in the process of learning how to share my unintended findings.
But to be FULLY UNDERSTOOD, ALL of what is to be shared has to be explained so that HOW it ALL fits together can be SEEN.
For example to FULLY UNDERSTOOD just the Mind and the brain actually work one first needs to learn and KNOW just HOW thy little 'self' came about and who and what thee True 'Self' IS, but to FULLY UNDERSTAND this one first needs to learn and KNOW just HOW the Mind and the brain work. There is a True 'catch-22' situation I have to first learn how to overcome.
For example because of just HOW the Mind and the brain work, some adults actually BELIEVE that "they" have "their OWN mind", or are extremely RESISTANT to SEEING or to just even contemplating any thing other than this. The brain has already been infected in such a way, which is making it harder to learn how to SHOW the "brain", and its 'thoughts', just HOW it actually works. In other words, the 'self' is literally STOPPING its 'self' from discovering, learning, and KNOWING who and what thy True Self actually REALLY IS.
surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:47 pmThis knowledge can then be passed on to others who want to learn about it too so it benefits everyone involved and that is good
This is the WHOLE trouble here, NO adult human being, well in this forum anyway, Truly 'wants to learn about this'. As EVIDENCED and PROVEN by the writings in this thread.
For example, telling me things like;
I think I know what you mean but as you will not explain it in any more detail I will not ask you to IS NOT a sign that one is Truly INQUISITIVE and Truly WANTS TO LEARN any thing.
Unless I am specifically TOLD, I OBVIOUSLY do NOT know absolutely each and EVERY thought within each and EVERY human body. Therefore, I do NOT know what 'you' KNOW and DO NOT KNOW.
There is absolutely NO use going on and on in greater and greater detail about some thing, to some one, IF they ALREADY KNOW IT. I have also found there is NO use going on and on in greater and greater detail about some thing, to some one, who from the very outset is NOT going to agree or accept it anyway.
Also, to FULLY UNDERSTAND just HOW the Mind and the brain work, and just who and what thy True Self IS, one just NEEDS to be Truly OPEN, Honest, and seriously Wanting to change, for the better, "themselves". I can NOT teach to those who are NOT YET READY, which can be frustrating because the actual simplicity of ALL-OF-THIS is breathtakingly BEAUTIFUL.
For example, the Mind, of which there is ONLY One, is OPEN ALWAYS. This True OPENNESS is what has ALLOWED human beings, collectively and individually, from their beginning to be ABLE to learn, understand, AND reason ANY and EVERY thing.
Whereas, the human brain, of which there is as many of them as there are human bodies, is ONLY able to collect and gather information from what the five senses of what that individual body experiences. This information is obtained, with some retained, which becomes 'thoughts' and/or 'emotions'. The ONLY thoughts that can be expressed are from the information that has been input. 'thoughts', loosely, (and for just the moment) are basically just information turned into knowledge. The individual brain can only output the knowledge that has been input, which OBVIOUSLY would be separate, different AND unique individual for each and EVERY separate, different AND unique individual human body. These individual 'thoughts/knowledge', being held within each individual human body is what I call the little 'selves'. However, the combination of ALL these 'thoughts/knowledge' is thee One "body of KNOWledge" of ALL-THERE-IS, which the AGREED UPON by ALL holds thee actual REAL Truth of things.
The collective, or collected, thoughts is thy True 'Self', which is just thee Truly OPEN Mind, whereas the individual and separated thoughts is just the person 'self'. The human brain, which holds this 'self', works just like a computer, the human brain is essentially just an information processor, and so can ONLY provide knowledge from the raw information that has been input, through any or all of the five sense. Thee OPEN Mind is, however, above and beyond this and so is ABLE TO and CAN decipher ALL of that thought and knowledge and SEE what is actually True, Right, AND Correct. The brain can NOT do this. The brain, through thought can ONLY see from what information/knowledge has ALREADY be obtained and retained, just like how ONLY a computer can also.
I could go on and on and on. But what would make this far simpler AND far easier is WHAT IS NOT YET FULLY UNDERSTOOD and/or WHAT IS SO FAR PERCEIVED TO BE WRONG was expressed, by each one of 'you', human beings, so then I would KNOW, for sure, what WAY to explain this BETTER, simpler AND easier to each one of those brains. Obviously, each one of 'you' is at different stages in Life, with each one ALSO knowing different things. So, to explain this in a way that 'you' each individual WILL learn and UNDERSTAND, then this NEEDS to be expressed in a different way. Considering how absolutely EVERY one of 'you' is a uniquely different human being, and so ALREADY KNOWS and SEES things differently, and considering just HOW many of 'you' there are, when this is written, then LEARNING and FINDING the BEST way to explain ALL-OF-THIS so that ALL-OF-'YOU' can and WILL FULLY UNDERSTAND it, just takes some time. This is where PATIENCE comes in.
Now, if just of 'you', like for example; 'you', "surreptitiuous57", were to HELP in this process by informing me of what it is that you would Truly like to learn and/or understand, AS WELL AS informing me what it is that 'you' Truly do NOT YET understand, from what I have said and expressed so far, then this would HELP me TREMENDOUSLY, which in turn would HELP ALL-OF-HUMANITY in the long run.
If, and WHEN, one human being, HELPS me to learn HOW to communicate with ALL of 'you', human beings, BETTER, then discovering, learning, and Truly UNDERSTANDING the KNOWLEDGE of just HOW living in peace and harmony with one "another" can be SHARED. But considering human being's past history please do NOT expect that ALL-OF-THIS will be UNDERSTOOD in a few words in a philosophy forum. Talking in a philosophy forum, to me, is just a place where the process to LEARN HOW TO COMMUNICATE BETTER is made. The actual process of TEACHING will be done later from explaining with and through examples.