Can a man really turn into a woman?

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Can a man really turn into a woman?

Gender is fluid, mutable, interchangeable, just a social construct (yes).
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Gender is fixed, immutable, not subject to change, sumthin' concretely intrinsic to the person (no).
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Re: Can a man really turn into a woman?

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Meh, that'll do. The other one works for me too though.

They are both valid enough ways of describing the matter in their own right, as long as you understand the limits of the claims that can be made from either position is a function of the very limited justification available in such matters. But that would take far more time to work through, especially given the intellectual resistance of this forum, than I'm going to be sparing any time soon. So everybody can as a shorthand, assume I don't agree with them if they are substantially committed to either of those statements, and it doesn't atter which.
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Re: Can a man really turn into a woman?

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FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:52 pm So God can reassign gender then.
He could indeed, if we're speaking in theory. But does He? Do we have even one case of Him doing so?

No, obviously.
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"They are both valid enough ways of describing the matter in their own right"

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Nope. One is valid, the other is hooey. Never mind, Flash, as you (essentially) say 'you got better things to do'.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:32 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:52 pm So God can reassign gender then.
He could indeed, if we're speaking in theory. But does He? Do we have even one case of Him doing so?

No, obviously.
So it is metaphysically possible to change from man to woman (an admission that in iteslf disproves your own argument), and now the question is merely a matter of whether this, now possible thing, has actually ocurred.

This shit can go much quicker when we threaten your religious sensitivites, it took 7 pages to make you commit to chairs not being convertible to tables in the other thread.
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Re: "They are both valid enough ways of describing the matter in their own right"

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henry quirk wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:35 pm Nope. One is valid, the other is hooey. Never mind, Flash, as you (essentially) say 'you got better things to do'.
Indeed, I am now off to the pub, see you guys later.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:46 pm So it is metaphysically possible to change from man to woman (an admission that in iteslf disproves your own argument),
That it is "theoretically possible" for God to do something says nothing about whether it's humanly possible, and far less suggests the case is any more than speculative, which it is, obviously. You're really out on an illogical limb there.

Now, maybe you can get back to me when you have an answer to what "differences" you think exist between men and women, okay? You left that one hanging, but I can clear up your confusions very easily once you take a position.
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Re: Can a man really turn into a woman?

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100% of males started as females.
Your question is only semantic.
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Sculptor wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:33 pm 100% of males started as females.
Your question is only semantic.
So, that's another vote for 'yes, a man can turn into a woman'.

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Re: Can a man really turn into a woman?

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henry quirk wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:34 pm
Sculptor wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:33 pm 100% of males started as females.
Your question is only semantic.
So, that's another vote for 'yes, a man can turn into a woman'.

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DUH.
Two things.
1) the poll is not yes/no.
2)The question is faulty. I did not vote.
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meh
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Impenitent wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:29 pm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFwP2huyNzg

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Re: Can a man really turn into a woman?

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PC twits contradict themselves all the time because they are intrinsically stupid. If gender is 'fluid' and is only a 'social construct' then how can all those men claim to 'feel' like women and that they were 'born with a 'female brain' '?? The two claims contradict each other.
At least stupid is 'fluid' and easily crosses between all boundaries (not to mention the fact that it can also be 'learnt behaviour' which is why the PC have infiltrated the education system at the earliest level).
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:56 pm PC twits contradict themselves all the time because they are intrinsically stupid. If gender is 'fluid' and is only a 'social construct' then how can all those men claim to 'feel' like women and that they were 'born with a 'female brain' '?? The two claims contradict each other.
Somebody take the 'logic' away from this one before she hurts somebody with it.

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Very well then I contradict myself,
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Re: Can a man really turn into a woman?

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Exactly. The PC are so morally superior that they don't have to justify themselves or be at least consistent and rational.
Arrogance is next to godliness.
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