I have NEVER been deceptive at all. Unlike you, I have NOT changed one view, nor one word, in regards to this, YET.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:20 amYou are being deceptive in sliding the premise with Universe/God.Age wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:05 amYes, science proves the Universe exists.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:56 am
I have provided the ultimate definition of God as defined by theists, note here;
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and this;
Now you can use Science to prove the above exists are real?
- St Anselm of Canterbury in his 1078 work Proslogion, defined God as
"a being than which no greater can be conceived" [2]
-wiki
The very existence of 'science' actually relies on the Universe existing.
Therefore, science confirms the Universe/God is real.
The Universe/God can also be a being than which no greater can be conceived, OBVIOUSLY. Although this is NOT the physical Universe is NOT the REAL term for the Being, of which there is no greater, it can suffice here for now.
So, now that that is settled, would you like to move on?
I HAVE ALREADY.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:20 amYou need to prove the Universe is the ontological God [as defined by theists] first.
You are just totally incapable of SEEING it and UNDERSTANDING this.
I have asked you to define EXACTLY what the ontological God IS. You have yet to do this, in this thread.
LOL.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:20 amScience has proven the known universe exists not the Whole Universe exists.
The ridiculousness of your statement speaks for itself.
The idea that there is NOT a whole Universe is beyond complete absurdity.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:20 amThe idea of the Whole Universe is a transcendental illusion.
Show me a scientific paper, or any paper, which proves the Universe is NOT the ontological God.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:20 amShow me a scientific paper which prove the scientific universe is the ontological God?