surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:36 pm
Age wrote:
Really the Universe is VERY SIMPLE
It is just human beings themselves who complicate things and make things hard to understand
The Universe is just made up of two very basic and very simple fundamental things
The nothing part of the Universe provides the something part of the Universe the ability to move about FREELY which allows the
Universe to evolve into the pre DETERMINED Self Aware and Conscious Being that It is ALWAYS going to BE COME or come to Be
I think there is much more to the Universe than simply objects and the space that exists between them
What else could there be?
What are some examples of these "there is much more"?
surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:36 pmI do not know if there is pre determinism with regard to the Universe but I am very sceptical about this
You can not do any other than with the thoughts within that body, could you?
The thoughts within that body are determined in the sense that they are there because of pre-vious conditions. Or, in other words, pre-conditioning. Now the way you will behave or misbehave will be determined by those pre-determined or pre-gained thoughts. So, in this sense, the Universe is pre-determined by previous actions/behaviors, or previous inter-actions. How you will act/behave is pre-determined by the thoughts you have now. But EQUALLY you are FREE to choose to do absolutely any thing you like. You are, however, limited in your choices because you can only choose from the pre-existing thoughts you have. You may come up with some new thoughts/ideas, but they are pre-determined, in a sense, because they only came about from the adding up of at least two or more pre-existing thoughts you had.
surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:36 pmI do know that it is too complex for me to understand on any fundamental level as my knowledge of it is very limited
my knowledge would have been a tiny fraction of yours. But I was able to make sense of ALL-THERE-IS, very easily and very simply NOT because of my very limited knowledge but because of just LOOKING AT things from another perspective, and that is all.
surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:36 pmThe sheer quantity of knowledge alone would be impossible to process even if it was all relatively easy to understand
But that is the seemingly contradictory and paradoxical Nature of Life, Itself. Discovering just HOW simple and easy it is to SEE the Truth of things really IS, is KNOWING that 'i', the individual personal self, will know relatively nothing compared to ALL there IS to know. But that I am ABLE to learn AND understand ANY thing, that is: If I Truly do WANT to LEARN and UNDERSTAND them.
That what is NOT yet KNOWN by most, like ALL the Truly meaningful questions; Who am I? What is our purpose for being here? What is the meaning of Life? How does the Mind and the brain work? Why am I here? et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, and all the other seemingly impossible things to learn and understand are REALLY the most basic and simple to discover and KNOW. In fact they are so simple and easy to KNOW thee ANSWERS to ALL of these questions are ALREADY KNOWN within us. The information is even locked up in the dna, and the knowledge of ALL of this is right there to be un-covered and revealed.
So, what seems to be impossible to KNOW is actually ALREADY KNOWN, just unconsciously and waiting to be consciously KNOWN. As for ALL the other knowledge waiting to be discovered, then that is just the truly physical stuff, which the knowledge of that stuff just comes with continual observation AND experience, of which OBVIOUSLY NO one human being could even know how little they really know. For example, imagine how long have human beings been around for compared to the Universe, Itself, and imagine how much of the Universe human beings have actually visited and thus Truly know? Now, imagine how much ALL of human kind KNOWS collectively, and compare that to how much 'you', as one individual, knows. What would the percentage be of what one individual knows compared to the thousands of human beings collectively know. How little would one really ever know compared to ALL of human kind, itself, and then how little would both just one individual AND ALL of humankind, itself, KNOW compared to what there is to learn and KNOW in relation to the Universe, Itself. Considering how insignificant ALL of human beings are, let alone just one, is NOT even some thing really worth considering. So, worrying about or wanting to gain MORE knowledge of what I call just 'meaningless stuff', to me, is of NO real concern.
Just discovering or learning the most basic, simple, and just plain fundamental 'meaningful stuff' provides the REAL and TRUE Answers that ALL have been seeking and LOOKING FOR since coming into this thing we call 'Existence'. This is the Truly simple and easy 'stuff' to learn and understand. As you REALLY ALREADY KNOW IT, you just do NOT yet KNOW that you do.
Also, once how the Mind and the brain actually work is learned and understood by more and more people, then the speed at which ALL the other stuff in the Universe is discovered and learned increases exponentially, at a phenomenal rate. But not discovered and learned by ALL people, as what is learned is STILL solely depended upon WANTS and DESIRES. Although there are some things that ALL people WANT and DESIRE equally. ALL people also WANT and DESIRE different things individually.