Sometimes I think this as well but I am never absolutely certainDontaskme wrote:
Time and Space are mental concepts
The Universe is too complicated for my tiny mind to understand
Sometimes I think this as well but I am never absolutely certainDontaskme wrote:
Time and Space are mental concepts
Is motion actually measured in 'time', as though time is some actually thing, or is motion measured in a thing that we just call 'time'?surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:26 pmYes it could but change occurs within the eternal NOW and that comes through motion which is measured in timeAge wrote:
To me the NOW exists eternally so that could be seen in a sense as timelessness
After the misconceptions of what 'time' actually IS, are understood and realized, then what the actual Truth IS can be said.surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:26 pmMaybe time is just a construct that has been created in order for human beings to regulate the world they live in
So it only exists as a subjective concept rather than as an objective phenomenon but how true this is I cannot say
To me, change and motion exist, until some one comes forward with evidence they do not, and 'time' is just a word used in relation to when measurements of change, through motion, are being made.surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:26 pmThe best thing is to keep an open mind and so avoid making any assumptions
I think time exists but I cannot be absolutely certain and probably never will
I need to study it more to see if I can understand it better than I currently do
Motion is measured in both units of time and space which is the temporal and spatial distances between any two pointsAge wrote:
Is motion actually measured in time as though time is some actually thing or is motion measured in a thing that we just call time
This is not my quote so I think its one of yours but its not from the post you quotedsurreptitious57 wrote:
So is time an actual thing like motion and change are actual things ?
Or is time just the name we use when defining differences in motion and change ?
That was my mistake. I fixed it up already.surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:27 amThis is not my quote so I think its one of yours but its not from the post you quotedsurreptitious57 wrote:
So is time an actual thing like motion and change are actual things ?
Or is time just the name we use when defining differences in motion and change ?
Yes motion is measured is units.surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:11 amMotion is measured in both units of time and space which is the temporal and spatial distances between any two pointsAge wrote:
Is motion actually measured in time as though time is some actually thing or is motion measured in a thing that we just call time
But, to you, what is 'spacetime' exactly?surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:11 amBecause of their relationship to each other space and time have been combined to create spacetime
But the Universe can still be very easily in a constant state of motion, without the words 'space' nor 'time' existing. The Universe will just carry on the way that It is HERE NOW.surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:11 amI think space and time both exist because the Universe is not static but in a constant state of motion
If there is a 'point in time', then what is 'time', to you, exactly?surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:11 amWhile I cannot be absolutely certain that is what I think is most likely to be true at this point in time
Really the Universe, Itself, is VERY SIMPLE.surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:26 pmSometimes I think this as well but I am never absolutely certainDontaskme wrote:
Time and Space are mental concepts
The Universe is too complicated for my tiny mind to understand
Well said.
Thanks for the opportunity to clarify my position, Commonsense. First of all, I am NOT a person who believes that the future never arrives. What I am saying is that the future is never knowable. Wearing a seatbelt is an example of prudent behaviour. As in many instances of everyday life, we act now in the present to avert possible danger, which might or might not happen in the unknowable future.commonsense wrote: ↑Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:15 pmWell said.
I would like to revisit the question that was asked of Richard earlier. I am rephrasing the question slightly to emphasize the meaning I found in it:
If you, Richard or anyone else, are a person who believes the future never arrives, how do you reconcile your wearing a seatbelt with your own belief that the future never arrives?
I thought you were saying at one time that the future now cannot be the present now, or the past now for that matter. What convinced you to change your mind?Richardmc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:31 am This is written to unify my statements and to add a couple of sentences. "There is a crucial division between the past and present vs. future. Reality happens or has happened- it does not exist in the future. If it has not yet happened, it is not real, other than as a concept. This is also true of time. Time always starts now. Future time only exists as a concept. Everything happens now- it is always now. This includes time, which always starts and happens now. Being conscious is being here now. Time passing is dynamic moments of now, now, now, etc.
The future, meanwhile, NEVER arrives."
I never said that.commonsense wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:04 pmI thought you were saying at one time that the future now cannot be the present now, or the past now for that matter. What convinced you to change your mind?Richardmc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:31 am This is written to unify my statements and to add a couple of sentences. "There is a crucial division between the past and present vs. future. Reality happens or has happened- it does not exist in the future. If it has not yet happened, it is not real, other than as a concept. This is also true of time. Time always starts now. Future time only exists as a concept. Everything happens now- it is always now. This includes time, which always starts and happens now. Being conscious is being here now. Time passing is dynamic moments of now, now, now, etc.
The future, meanwhile, NEVER arrives."
I think there is much more to the Universe than simply objects and the space that exists between themAge wrote:
Really the Universe is VERY SIMPLE
It is just human beings themselves who complicate things and make things hard to understand
The Universe is just made up of two very basic and very simple fundamental things
The nothing part of the Universe provides the something part of the Universe the ability to move about FREELY which allows the
Universe to evolve into the pre DETERMINED Self Aware and Conscious Being that It is ALWAYS going to BE COME or come to Be
Time is defined as a series of states. If there is only one state, then there is no time because everything is frozen.