Do you experience time when there is no change?

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Eodnhoj7
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Re: Do you experience time when there is no change?

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Age wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:11 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:01 am
Age wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:13 am

You can, so call, "argue" to an empty point, if you so wish to, and inevitably quite often that is exactly what you do do. But that is because of how you start ALL of your, so called, "arguments", and because of what you always use for your premises in your "arguments".

If, and when, you use what are or could be essentially just false and wrong premises anyway, then you will enevitably end up at empty points, or just false or wrong conclusions.
My arguments are looping contexts that variables by nature, that intrinsically empty can progress to further contexts...there is no contradiction as contexts are assumed and all assumptions exist through contexts because of there inherent empty nature that allows further contexts to be "assumed" (ie fit in, be imprinted, etc.)
And ALL of this is just an ASSUMPTION, which OBVIOUSLY could ALL be completely and utterly WRONG.

Your, so called "arguments" are so empty that you can not even answer questions, so as to clarify what it is that you really want to express.

Saying every thing is just assumptions, which loop back onto empty points, is not really saying much at all. Although, I suppose, your are proving your empty point about it all leads to an empty point.

Are you at all able to actually pin point it down that what you want us to understand, realize, and know?
How old are you?
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Re: Do you experience time when there is no change?

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Age wrote:
To me motion happens change happens but there is still NO actual thing as time

But you are saying that change happens WITHIN time
Time is simply the name for the distance between points within the spectrum of Existence
So when I say that change happens within time I mean conceptually rather than physically
Its more a mental model rather than actual reality because maybe time doesnt exist at all
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Re: Do you experience time when there is no change?

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surreptitious57 wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:32 am
Age wrote:
To me motion happens change happens but there is still NO actual thing as time

But you are saying that change happens WITHIN time
Time is simply the name for the distance between points within the spectrum of Existence
So when I say that change happens within time I mean conceptually rather than physically
Its more a mental model rather than actual reality because maybe time doesnt exist at all
Okay, now that sounds far more like the actual Truth of things.

So, thank you.
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Re: Do you experience time when there is no change?

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:35 am
Age wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:11 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:01 am

My arguments are looping contexts that variables by nature, that intrinsically empty can progress to further contexts...there is no contradiction as contexts are assumed and all assumptions exist through contexts because of there inherent empty nature that allows further contexts to be "assumed" (ie fit in, be imprinted, etc.)
And ALL of this is just an ASSUMPTION, which OBVIOUSLY could ALL be completely and utterly WRONG.

Your, so called "arguments" are so empty that you can not even answer questions, so as to clarify what it is that you really want to express.

Saying every thing is just assumptions, which loop back onto empty points, is not really saying much at all. Although, I suppose, your are proving your empty point about it all leads to an empty point.

Are you at all able to actually pin point it down that what you want us to understand, realize, and know?
How old are you?
As old as "time".

How old are you?
Age
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Re: Do you experience time when there is no change?

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:35 am
Age wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:10 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:59 am

Assumptions.
Is this what you;
1. ASSUME is true,

2. KNOW is true, or

3. BELIEVE is true?

If it is 1 or 2, then you could be completely and utterly WRONG. If, however, it is 2, then what evidence do you have that proves it is true.
Assumptions.
Assumptions are all you can give.

Knowings is all I choose to give.
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Re: Do you experience time when there is no change?

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Age wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:49 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:35 am
Age wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:11 am

And ALL of this is just an ASSUMPTION, which OBVIOUSLY could ALL be completely and utterly WRONG.

Your, so called "arguments" are so empty that you can not even answer questions, so as to clarify what it is that you really want to express.

Saying every thing is just assumptions, which loop back onto empty points, is not really saying much at all. Although, I suppose, your are proving your empty point about it all leads to an empty point.

Are you at all able to actually pin point it down that what you want us to understand, realize, and know?
How old are you?
As old as "time".

How old are you?
I am Time grown Old.
Eodnhoj7
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Re: Do you experience time when there is no change?

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Age wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:50 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:35 am
Age wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:10 am

Is this what you;
1. ASSUME is true,

2. KNOW is true, or

3. BELIEVE is true?

If it is 1 or 2, then you could be completely and utterly WRONG. If, however, it is 2, then what evidence do you have that proves it is true.
Assumptions.
Assumptions are all you can give.

Knowings is all I choose to give.
You mean like the jelly candies grandparents give there grandchildren...the ones the kids spit behind the couch?
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Re: Do you experience time when there is no change?

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:01 am
Age wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:49 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:35 am

How old are you?
As old as "time".

How old are you?
I am Time grown Old.
Okay now that we have that sorted out, would you like to move on?
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Re: Do you experience time when there is no change?

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:02 am
Age wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:50 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:35 am
Assumptions.
Assumptions are all you can give.

Knowings is all I choose to give.
You mean like the jelly candies grandparents give there grandchildren...the ones the kids spit behind the couch?
If that is what you ASSUME, then that MUST BE what it is. After all, all you can do is make up assumptions. Like these ones.
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Re: Do you experience time when there is no change?

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Age wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:06 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:01 am
Age wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:49 am

As old as "time".

How old are you?
I am Time grown Old.
Okay now that we have that sorted out, would you like to move on?
No.
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Re: Do you experience time when there is no change?

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Age wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:08 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:02 am
Age wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:50 am

Assumptions are all you can give.

Knowings is all I choose to give.
You mean like the jelly candies grandparents give there grandchildren...the ones the kids spit behind the couch?
If that is what you ASSUME, then that MUST BE what it is. After all, all you can do is make up assumptions. Like these ones.
Do you believe I assume everything?
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Re: Do you experience time when there is no change?

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bahman wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:19 pm Sculptor believes that there is no experience of time when there is no change. If it is so then why waiting is so bothersome? Obviously, there should be no waiting if there is no passage of psychological time.
time is a product of motion. no motion no time.
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Re: Do you experience time when there is no change?

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:43 pm
Age wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:08 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:02 am

You mean like the jelly candies grandparents give there grandchildren...the ones the kids spit behind the couch?
If that is what you ASSUME, then that MUST BE what it is. After all, all you can do is make up assumptions. Like these ones.
Do you believe I assume everything?
No.

I KNOW you assume everything.
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Re: Do you experience time when there is no change?

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Age wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:36 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:43 pm
Age wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:08 am

If that is what you ASSUME, then that MUST BE what it is. After all, all you can do is make up assumptions. Like these ones.
Do you believe I assume everything?
No.

I KNOW you assume everything.
Prove it.
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Re: Do you experience time when there is no change?

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2019 6:25 am
Age wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:36 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:43 pm

Do you believe I assume everything?
No.

I KNOW you assume everything.
Prove it.
YOUR WORDS, say so.

Have you been lying to us when you said that you assume everything?
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