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Just a liiitle more work on that omniscience stuff, and you're good to go
I have been saying from the outset of writing in this forum that the Universe is in constant-change. So, I am well aware that Existence, Itself, is in One constant-motion of change, and it would be an impossibility to NOT change.surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:15 pmAll of existence is continually changing so is not limited to just the things that human beings can changeAge wrote:
But Mind is what allows living things like you human beings to keep on imagining and creating new things
which is just rearranging what is preexisting into new ways shape and forms
surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:15 pmChange is ubiquitous for it is a feature of existence and is one of only two the other is that it is infinite
So what would and could you change your definition of what 'life' means, so that then non life could be placed on a spectrum called 'Life"?surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:22 pmThat would indeed be weird but if I changed my definition of what life was it would no longer be weirdAge wrote:
Also would it seem somewhat strange or contradictory to have a spectrum called Existence but on it is points of non life
non life implies or infers non existing or non existent so to me a spectrum on or about Existence would seem weird to have non existence
This was the point that I was trying to emphasise by implying that my spectrum could include all of life
But I KNOW what and who 'I' am.surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:55 pmYou are not really interested in knowing what you are but do you not think that is a strange thing to sayAge wrote:
I do not have a clue what panpsychism is and seriously I am not really that interested in knowing anyway
Okay. But 'philosophy' to me, is just the love-of-'learning' or becoming wiser.surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:55 pm Panpsychism is the philosophy that everything is alive not just things commonly accepted as being alive
Okay.surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:11 pmI think a foetus only stops being alive either when it dies or its no longer a foetusAge wrote:
Just wondering when is a fetus alive from your perspective
And so if it develops into a baby then as a foetus it would always have been alive
1 What is LIFE.Age wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:07 pmSo, if a fetus within the womb is alive, then how can some thing alive not have life yet and just be waiting the arrival of its so called "life"?Ferdi wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:22 amI Agree.surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:04 am
No because to me both plants and a foetus are biological for both are alive
I therefore see all plants and animals as being alive and all bacteria as well
When will it, or any one for that matter, know when its "life" has arrived for it?
How does "life" arrive?
Where does "life" come from?
What is "life"?
I agree with the above principle - you'd have to like flogging dead horses when interacting with authors such as Age.surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:48 pm
To me and possibly others too going by their words you come across as someone who knows more than everyone else here does
And so I do not bother correcting you all of the time if I disagree with you and will probably correct you even less from now on
You have only today said that you get bored having to read the same arguments over and over and
instead wish I would try to see things differently other than from my very own limited perspective
Now you want me to question you from this very same perspective which I really do not want to do
As I see you as one who is trying to get me to think better and that cannot be done if I keep disagreeing with you as much as you want me to
And so your request is therefore denied as I have zero intention of questioning absolutely everything you say that I disagree with from now on
Me thinks Age likes chasing his own tail just for the fun of doing so, I mean what else is one supposed to do around here?AGE wrote:
I also do not really like following, subscribing or even just looking at any separate 'ism' groups of human beings with specific ways of looking at, viewing, and seeing things. Any person who prescribes them self as 'ist' thing, usually just tries to persuade "others" to get rid of their BELIEFS and come and BELIEVE what they them self does. All to no avail, I might add.
You cannot become any wiser than that.The Wise One wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:35 pmBut I KNOW what and who 'I' am.
That is the very point. 'I' do NOT give myself a label so that I belong in some group that thinks in only some particular way.
I KNOW the answer to the question 'Who am 'I'?'
I also KNOW the answer to the question 'Who 'you' are?
I also KNOW 'Who thee 'I' is and who the 'you' are? (This is from the objective viewpoint).
Life means to have knowledge of. Knowledge brings non life to life.
To be fair he has actually said I just express how I see and view things which ALL OF could be completely or partly WRONGDontaskme wrote:
Age already has all the answers
I would not describe them as empty but I agree with this in principle . Life is just a temporally insignificant period of existence in between the infinity of non existence before conception and the infinity of non existence after death . The I that becomes self aware is so for no time at all relative to these two infinities . So every single life is therefore a very small point on the spectrum of Existence that has always existed and will always exist . That is simply how it is and is why I just accept it and have no problem when the time comes with leaving this life and passing into the infinite state of non existence known as death . The great paradox is that nearly everything within Existence will eventually die but Existence itself can never die so there is no reason why human beings should not also die . We are nothing special . Only human beings think they are specialDontaskme wrote:
When all forms are apparently temporal transient empty appearances appearing from non existence returning to non existence
The only difference between the human primate and the other primates is that humans learn the art of language and out of that came the ego, the alter illusory self, that was believed to exist separately in and of itself in a more superior way. That belief, was the humans biggest delusion, one that will ultimately become it's own demise, as we see utter man-made disgregated chaos evidenced all over the world today. In other words, humans fucked up, they had their chance and they fluffed it. We need to stop breeding fast. It's time for energy to shapeshift into it's next transference of energy, we've long out stayed our welcome here.surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:05 am We are nothing special . Only human beings think they are special
Holy Books allegedly inspired by God are in fact produced by indoctrinated humans.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:46 am There is a reason why eastern religions do whatever it takes to avoid reincarnation and why in western abrahamic religions the book of ecclesiastes states loosely: "the day one dies is better than the day they where born" and depth of attending "funerals over parties".