As I said, 'From 2', EVERY thing you say is illogical.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:37 amI stated, assuming if I have proofs for all the points, is there anything wrong with the logical narrative in terms of structure, not specific contents.Age wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:02 amFrom 2Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:06 am
I believe I have presented my full argument logically somewhere in sequential order in a narrative form.
I did not intent to do so above, thus mixed up.
Your point re my 'first premise' and 'ultimate premise' as if they must be specific is too confusing.
What is critical the whatever argument I presented the first premise must follow through to the whatever conclusion.
Here is a rough narrative of my argument 'why god is an impossibility to be real' within the overriding premise, of striving perpetual peace.
The basis of perpetual peace is very complex and the element of theism as a threat is merely one of perhaps hundreds or thousand+, but theism is a very significant factor with a weightage of say, 40%.
- 1. Humans exist - self evident
2. DNA wise ALL humans has the potential of an existential crisis [proof TBA]
3. DNA wise ALL humans the the potential to be good (3a) and evil (3b).
...in our present state, the potential for evil is greater than that of good.
4. From 2, the existential crisis drive humans to religions [theistic and non theistic] [Proof TBA]
5. The scriptures of theistic religion contain loads of evil and violent elements [Proof TBA]
6. These evil and violent elements trigger evil tendency (3b) of some believers to commit evil and violent act that threaten perpetual peace.
7. The good in humans (3a) strive for perpetual peace.
8. To attain perpetual peace, we need to eliminate one of its threat, i.e. theistic religions [5].
9. The central core of theistic religion is a belief in God as real.
10. If God is an impossibility, it cannot be real thus no grounds for (5).
11. God is an impossibility to be real [Proof provided].
12. God is defanged, thus facilitating 8 i.e. perpetual peace
The above is merely a rough narrative and I understand each point itself is an argument which I need to prove and justify which can be complex in themselves.
Assuming I have the proofs for all the points 1-12, where did I go wrong in the above logical narrative from 1 to 12.
Note re point 2, I qualified proofs are to be advised or provided.
I don't intend to go into the details because of your ignorance [gathered from what you have posted] of the relevant elements there would be too many holes for you to fill.
You can take them as leads to further knowledge.
I suggest you dig deep into what is the existential crisis or existential dilemma arising from a cognitive dissonance. You will need to be very familiar with neuroscience, neuro-psychology, evolutionary psychology and related matters.
What is good and evil will also be complex.
Besides you need to understand the core principles of all the mainstream theistic religion. It will take years for one to grasp the core of the Quran.
There are many other aspects of knowledge you need to update.
If you BELIEVE you have some "cure" or "some thing", which will make human existence better, then go ahead and do it. I hope you achieve your goals. Unfortunately though the dislike and hatred that you have for some may well interfere with your goal here. But anyway best of luck.