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Davyboi wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:11 am
Sculptor wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:04 am
Davyboi wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:02 am
Yes we do exist, why we do, or in what state of existence we exist in, is a different discussion..but to say you are a fully realised person is a bold statement. No-one has the answer.
It's not bold at all.
All you have to do is wake up each morning and there you are.
I wake, I know what to do.
What is your problem?
Well I am not you! When I wake up I question everything.
Quick question for you, throughout your life how many times have you gone to sleep and woke up from a dream, that is so real. That you have questioned yourself that you are actually awake?
Never. But sometimes dreams are so nice that I wish I had not awoken. For example when I was going through the daily grind of cancer treatment, my dreams were really cool, whilst my waking time was a constant struggle.
You said:
"When I wake up I question everything."
Hyperbole makes you look ridiculous. It is simply impossible to question everything; you would never be able to put your socks on, let alone eat breakfast.
There is no need to exaggerate.
You will find that I am a very skeptical person. I constantly question. That does not mean I do not automatically "realise" who I am; nor does it mean that "everything I do" contribute to my "realisation".
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waechter418 wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:56 pm
waechter418 wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:58 pm All our deeds, emotions, thoughts, creeds – and whatever else we are trying to relate ourselves with – are expression of Consciousness which exercises its possibilities in order to realise itself.
You may look at it this way:

The following is based on the supposition that unity comprises multiplicity in order to realize itself.

The interaction of unity and multiplicity is called ConsciousNess and regarded as an inter-extrapolation that relates in a viewpoint which manifests ConsciousNess.*

* (The particular spelling is to emphasize the relativity of Conscious: purposeful, aware – and Ness: being, existence)

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Sculptor wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:03 am Never. But sometimes dreams are so nice that I wish I had not awoken. For example when I was going through the daily grind of cancer treatment, my dreams were really cool, whilst my waking time was a constant struggle.

Do you ever question why you believe, know, or think, your waking moments are a constant struggle and a grind?
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Dontaskme wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:37 pm
Sculptor wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:03 am Never. But sometimes dreams are so nice that I wish I had not awoken. For example when I was going through the daily grind of cancer treatment, my dreams were really cool, whilst my waking time was a constant struggle.

Do you ever question why you believe, know, or think, your waking moments are a constant struggle and a grind?
I believe nothing. I know perfectly well why my waking moments can be a grind.
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Sculptor wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:05 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:37 pm
Sculptor wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:03 am Never. But sometimes dreams are so nice that I wish I had not awoken. For example when I was going through the daily grind of cancer treatment, my dreams were really cool, whilst my waking time was a constant struggle.

Do you ever question why you believe, know, or think, your waking moments are a constant struggle and a grind?
I believe nothing. I know perfectly well why my waking moments can be a grind.
Do you ever question the knowledge you have of why your waking moments are a constant struggle and grind? or are you ok with it?
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Dontaskme wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:38 pm
Sculptor wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:05 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:37 pm


Do you ever question why you believe, know, or think, your waking moments are a constant struggle and a grind?
I believe nothing. I know perfectly well why my waking moments can be a grind.
Do you ever question the knowledge you have of why your waking moments are a constant struggle and grind? or are you ok with it?
What, exactly are you after here? I told you I knew why my life can be a grind. I have chronic pain from cancer treatment. Aside from that my life is charmed.
I've always challenged all knowledge that is why I do not believe in any thing until it qualifies as knowledge.
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Sculptor wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:03 am
Davyboi wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:11 am
Sculptor wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:04 am
It's not bold at all.
All you have to do is wake up each morning and there you are.
I wake, I know what to do.
What is your problem?
Well I am not you! When I wake up I question everything.
Quick question for you, throughout your life how many times have you gone to sleep and woke up from a dream, that is so real. That you have questioned yourself that you are actually awake?
Never. But sometimes dreams are so nice that I wish I had not awoken. For example when I was going through the daily grind of cancer treatment, my dreams were really cool, whilst my waking time was a constant struggle.
You said:
"When I wake up I question everything."
Hyperbole makes you look ridiculous. It is simply impossible to question everything; you would never be able to put your socks on, let alone eat breakfast.
There is no need to exaggerate.
You will find that I am a very skeptical person. I constantly question. That does not mean I do not automatically "realise" who I am; nor does it mean that "everything I do" contribute to my "realisation".
I am not exaggerating! You are dismissing my opinion like it's nothing...its not! I wake and question everything in. But putting my socks on isn't one of them.
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Davyboi wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:03 pm
Sculptor wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:03 am
Davyboi wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:11 am
Well I am not you! When I wake up I question everything.
Quick question for you, throughout your life how many times have you gone to sleep and woke up from a dream, that is so real. That you have questioned yourself that you are actually awake?
Never. But sometimes dreams are so nice that I wish I had not awoken. For example when I was going through the daily grind of cancer treatment, my dreams were really cool, whilst my waking time was a constant struggle.
You said:
"When I wake up I question everything."
Hyperbole makes you look ridiculous. It is simply impossible to question everything; you would never be able to put your socks on, let alone eat breakfast.
There is no need to exaggerate.
You will find that I am a very skeptical person. I constantly question. That does not mean I do not automatically "realise" who I am; nor does it mean that "everything I do" contribute to my "realisation".
I am not exaggerating! You are dismissing my opinion like it's nothing...its not! I wake and question everything in. But putting my socks on isn't one of them.
You simply cannot question "EVERYTHING", but not question putting on your socks, idiot. Think about it!
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Davyboi wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:48 pm
waechter418 wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:48 pm Sorry to hear that you run out of wrestling partners (perhaps they got tired of your naughty tricks) :)
Play nice please!
are you sure ? :roll:
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waechter418 wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:23 am
Davyboi wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:48 pm
waechter418 wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:48 pm Sorry to hear that you run out of wrestling partners (perhaps they got tired of your naughty tricks) :)
Play nice please!
are you sure ? :roll:
Each person is entitled to there own beliefs!
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Davyboi wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:52 pm
waechter418 wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:23 am
Davyboi wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:48 pm
Play nice please!
are you sure ? :roll:
Each person is entitled to there own beliefs!
I totally agree ! ! !
so why to try to change them (particularly in a hardcore case as the above) ?
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