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Motive and opportunity

Post by Lacewing » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:07 pm

I'm not sure we ever own much of anything.

Our lives and characters are a result of all kinds of influences that mold us and/or distort us -- and "our thinking" may not even be our own as much as a collective of one influence or another.

Our liberty is also based on all kinds of influence and circumstances. We can try to be as free-thinking and free-acting as possible, but we are still products of our environments.

And property...well, to me it seems that we pretty much rent or borrow all that we temporarily acquire. And to be dependent on anything could be seen as being OWNED BY IT. Our thoughts and actions are affected by the things we covet. We build stories around them: our need for them, our "right" to them, our justifications for protecting them, etc.

As a result, we humans end up with giant clashes of stories! :lol: And that's all they are.

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Re: Motive and opportunity

Post by Walker » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:28 am

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/0 ... n-mansion/

”Jeffrey Epstein had a portrait of former President Bill Clinton wearing Monica Lewinsky’s infamous blue dress while lounging in a chair in the Oval Office.”

How cynical, but perhaps a feather in his cap in some quarters.

“According to reports, Epstein committed suicide, however, many close to him fear he was murdered.”

Those close to Epstein would likely have a more evidence-based sense of his state of mind than speculating spit-ballers. Reports also say that his private island was wired up for video and he recorded virtually every move of his guests. Why would he, or anyone, do that? Most likely to use for extortion, given the influence of his guests.

Certainly pertains to motive for the murder that his close associates suspect.

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Re: Motive and opportunity

Post by Walker » Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:35 am

The hair bone's connected to the head bone,

The head bone's connected to the neck bone,

The neck bone's connected to the hyoid bone,

Suicide rarely breaks the hyoid bone.


What happened to all the videos in Epstein's collection?

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Re: Motive and opportunity

Post by Age » Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:05 pm

Walker wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:06 am
Age wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:50 am
Unless you were there and did it or you saw who did it then you will never know.
I Am is true, all else is inference subject to probability.
Therefore, only one thing is truly important. Every thing else, contrary to popular belief, is of no real concern.

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Re: Motive and opportunity

Post by Walker » Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:41 pm

Age wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:05 pm
Walker wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:06 am
Age wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:50 am
Unless you were there and did it or you saw who did it then you will never know.
I Am is true, all else is inference subject to probability.
Therefore, only one thing is truly important. Every thing else, contrary to popular belief, is of no real concern.
Inference does not equate to no real concern.

I Am is true, refers to certainty.
I Am is not subject to probability.
Inference, even what you infer from direct sensory experience, is subject to probability.

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Re: Motive and opportunity

Post by Age » Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:38 am

Walker wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:41 pm
Age wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:05 pm
Walker wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:06 am

I Am is true, all else is inference subject to probability.
Therefore, only one thing is truly important. Every thing else, contrary to popular belief, is of no real concern.
Inference does not equate to no real concern.
I totally agree.
Walker wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:41 pm
I Am is true, refers to certainty.
I Am is not subject to probability.
Inference, even what you infer from direct sensory experience, is subject to probability.
That is exactly how I understood it from what you said previously.

If only the 'I am' is true, then that is the only one thing that is truly important. Therefore, every thing else is not really that important, and so also of no real concern.

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Re: Motive and opportunity

Post by Walker » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:11 am

Both concern and degree of importance are inferences which are uncertain and exist only in relationship to the certainty of, I Am.

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Re: Motive and opportunity

Post by gaffo » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:31 am

Walker wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:59 pm
Who did it?

epstein probably.

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Re: Motive and opportunity

Post by Walker » Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:55 pm

gaffo wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:31 am
Walker wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:59 pm
Who did it?

epstein probably.
Not likely. He had no motive or shame. He did have lots of money for lawyers and lots of dirt on the status quo folks.

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Re: Motive and opportunity

Post by attofishpi » Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:23 am

Walker wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:35 am
The hair bone's connected to the head bone,

The head bone's connected to the neck bone,

The neck bone's connected to the hyoid bone,

Suicide rarely breaks the hyoid bone.


What happened to all the videos in Epstein's collection?
A utuber 'Shaun Attwood' covers the Epstein thang rather well. When the likes of Prince Andrew are on vid among many other 'elites', yeah u aint gonna exist for much longer.
This ex cop apparently was issued all the video material which he has encrypted and is sitting on servers about the place to ensure his own safety - if he gets topped - the files will be decrypted and released.

Meet The Ex Cop Who Fled To Russia Part 2: John Mark Dougan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovX8qdV ... dex=5&t=0s

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Re: Motive and opportunity

Post by attofishpi » Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:32 am

The Shocking Relationship Between Princess Margaret And A Gangster | Absolute History
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWUE2JHsYOY&t=2018s

...about 30mins in to the video - see what happens when someone of the 'lower ilk' has something over a royal.

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Re: Motive and opportunity

Post by Walker » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:33 pm

Interesting article. Gates obviously wants to set the record straight.

Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/busi ... gates.html

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