SteveKlinko wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:48 pmEither you are the One Consciousness or I am the One Consciousness. This means that either you don't exist or I don't exist.
Every I is the same One Consciousness.
But how can ONE I be known?
The one consciousness here cannot know without the same one consciousness there reflecting back upon itself here informing it's existence as an image known..which is actually only ever known here ..as there is only a reflection of here appearing to be there separate from here...but the separation is an illusory split.
A known image there in the form of an object is made here in the subject as a conceptual knowledge known in what was previous unknown.
Consciousness cannot look at itself nor know itself directly without reflecting itself as an image known. ( aka a concept)
Consciousness can only be seen and known aka realised via the concept it knows. Consciousness can only be known to exist as a fictional concept that it itself has self created within itself.
In the same context a spider creates a web from the threads spun out of it's own being.
Consciousness can only become known to itself as and through it's own projected image of itself. The known image however has no knowledge of itself independantly of it's knower projecter projecting the image, because all images are already being known by the projector itself.
Consciousness knows itself as and through it's own mental construction as imaged, even though the image is just as empty as the one projecting it..it only appears to be full when it is given an identity aka a word, which is also empty because a word is just sound and light heard as words.
SteveKlinko wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:48 pmI know I exist so I have to be skeptical of your existence. But this is by your way of thinking. By my way of thinking I say we all exist as individual entities.
This is not known via the thinking intellect which obscures what is actally being pointed to...aka consciousness without an object.
Consciousness does not need an object to be, but an object needs consciousness to be, because an object is a reflection which needs a reflector that has to be first and fundamental prior to the reflection, and knows the reflection as and when it arises. The reflection is the mind which is objective aspect of consciousness already couched within consciousness ..mind can be latent or active...the mind can know itself via the thing it knows by identifying with it's own created known thing aka a concept known to it only..and is why knowledge informs the illusory nature of reality...because in essence all that is known is emptiness knowing itself, appearing to be full...aka some thing.
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