Would a naturalistic view of god be beneficial during our present animal extinction event?
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Would a naturalistic view of god be beneficial during our present animal extinction event?
Would a naturalistic view of god be beneficial during our present animal extinction event?
Nature gives us life and spirit. Our spirit gives us god. A god within each of us is very ancient thinking.
We cannot define our gods exactly. We can only use analogies.
I think that supernatural gods do not need anything from us. They do not need toys.
If we are to serve any god, it should be one that gives life and that is Earth.
Earth cannot speak. Only life in the form of a man can.
In the natural world, all life worships its own natural likeness. All except man.
Why are we fighting nature, and idol worshiping imaginary gods, as we destroy our eco system?
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DL
Nature gives us life and spirit. Our spirit gives us god. A god within each of us is very ancient thinking.
We cannot define our gods exactly. We can only use analogies.
I think that supernatural gods do not need anything from us. They do not need toys.
If we are to serve any god, it should be one that gives life and that is Earth.
Earth cannot speak. Only life in the form of a man can.
In the natural world, all life worships its own natural likeness. All except man.
Why are we fighting nature, and idol worshiping imaginary gods, as we destroy our eco system?
Regards
DL
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Re: Would a naturalistic view of god be beneficial during our present animal extinction event?
What extinction event? Even if there were such a thing, it would not matter.
Re: Would a naturalistic view of god be beneficial during our present animal extinction event?
A truthful and realistic view of God would be more beneficial for every thing.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:49 pm Would a naturalistic view of god be beneficial during our present animal extinction event?
But 'we' can define 'God' exactly. In fact it is a very easy and simple thing to do. That is; once 'you' know what 'God' is exactly.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:49 pmNature gives us life and spirit. Our spirit gives us god. A god within each of us is very ancient thinking.
We cannot define our gods exactly. We can only use analogies.
What do you mean by 'supernatural'?Greatest I am wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:49 pmI think that supernatural gods do not need anything from us. They do not need toys.
Is there any actual thing above, beyond, apart from, or 'super' from natural?
If yes, then please list.
Does any thing, besides human beings, actually 'worship'?Greatest I am wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:49 pmIf we are to serve any god, it should be one that gives life and that is Earth.
Earth cannot speak. Only life in the form of a man can.
In the natural world, all life worships its own natural likeness. All except man.
Because 'you' (adults) are dishonest, were abused when children, and are now greedy.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:49 pmWhy are we fighting nature, and idol worshiping imaginary gods, as we destroy our eco system?
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DL
Re: Would a naturalistic view of god be beneficial during our present animal extinction event?
Greatest I am wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:49 pm Would a naturalistic view of god be beneficial during our present animal extinction event?
Nature gives us life and spirit. Our spirit gives us god. A god within each of us is very ancient thinking.
We cannot define our gods exactly. We can only use analogies.
I think that supernatural gods do not need anything from us. They do not need toys.
If we are to serve any god, it should be one that gives life and that is Earth.
Earth cannot speak. Only life in the form of a man can.
yes we had a naturalistic view of the Gods from 2 million yrs ago to 10,000 yrs ago. and it worked well.
its too late now - 10,000 yrs to late.
we cannot go back to that form of Religion (animism) (unless there is are a few ww3's and ww4's - them maybe possible).
yes.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:49 pm In the natural world, all life worships its own natural likeness. All except man.
because we violated nature when we invented agriculture 10 thousand years ago, and we only have excellerated our separation from nature exponentially since that time.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:49 pm Why are we fighting nature, and idol worshiping imaginary gods, as we destroy our eco system?
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Nature will eventually remove us from Earth when we get too far from nature's rule.
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Re: Would a naturalistic view of god be beneficial during our present animal extinction event?
I definitely agree that a realistic view of god would benefit everything.Age wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:35 amA truthful and realistic view of God would be more beneficial for every thing.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:49 pm Would a naturalistic view of god be beneficial during our present animal extinction event?
But 'we' can define 'God' exactly. In fact it is a very easy and simple thing to do. That is; once 'you' know what 'God' is exactly.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:49 pmNature gives us life and spirit. Our spirit gives us god. A god within each of us is very ancient thinking.
We cannot define our gods exactly. We can only use analogies.
What do you mean by 'supernatural'?Greatest I am wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:49 pmI think that supernatural gods do not need anything from us. They do not need toys.
Is there any actual thing above, beyond, apart from, or 'super' from natural?
If yes, then please list.
Does any thing, besides human beings, actually 'worship'?Greatest I am wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:49 pmIf we are to serve any god, it should be one that gives life and that is Earth.
Earth cannot speak. Only life in the form of a man can.
In the natural world, all life worships its own natural likeness. All except man.
Because 'you' (adults) are dishonest, were abused when children, and are now greedy.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:49 pmWhy are we fighting nature, and idol worshiping imaginary gods, as we destroy our eco system?
Regards
DL
More are recognizing that, even atheists, who are opening mystery schools that will bring us all back to a better way to argue and seek god. Much better than the present brain dead idol worship that Christians, Muslims and other religions do.
True that god can be defined exactly, should we collectively choose to do so. We do not have any good metaphor to rally round and remain divided instead.
I do not define supernatural differently than what the dictionaries show. I highlight imaginary and fiction.
"Is there any actual thing above, beyond, apart from, or 'super' from natural?"
That is subjective. Many say that telepathy is supernatural. I disagree and see it as nature based on the fact that it is generated in us, who are a part of nature.
Is there a miracle working supernatural entity?
I don't know, but if there is one, I would destroy it.
All wise people would do the same.
Gnostic themes, if the supernatural were real, posit gods over gods over gods as no god could be sure that some other god was above him. That is why we disrespect all gods and are perpetual seekers of the best rules and laws to live by.
You asked if other things worship. Yes. All life that tries to mimic it's kind.
An ants ideal/god is an ant.
A lions ideal/god is a lion.
A humans ideal/god is a human.
Regards
DL
Re: Would a naturalistic view of god be beneficial during our present animal extinction event?
You ARE God in physical form thinking it's human. God is not something "out there" floating around separate from us.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:49 pm Would a naturalistic view of god be beneficial during our present animal extinction event?
Nature gives us life and spirit. Our spirit gives us god. A god within each of us is very ancient thinking.
We cannot define our gods exactly. We can only use analogies.
I think that supernatural gods do not need anything from us. They do not need toys.
If we are to serve any god, it should be one that gives life and that is Earth.
Earth cannot speak. Only life in the form of a man can.
In the natural world, all life worships its own natural likeness. All except man.
Why are we fighting nature, and idol worshiping imaginary gods, as we destroy our eco system?
Regards
DL
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Re: Would a naturalistic view of god be beneficial during our present animal extinction event?
I am a Gnostic Christian and that is a part of our ideology.Ramu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:22 pmYou ARE God in physical form thinking it's human. God is not something "out there" floating around separate from us.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:49 pm Would a naturalistic view of god be beneficial during our present animal extinction event?
Nature gives us life and spirit. Our spirit gives us god. A god within each of us is very ancient thinking.
We cannot define our gods exactly. We can only use analogies.
I think that supernatural gods do not need anything from us. They do not need toys.
If we are to serve any god, it should be one that gives life and that is Earth.
Earth cannot speak. Only life in the form of a man can.
In the natural world, all life worships its own natural likeness. All except man.
Why are we fighting nature, and idol worshiping imaginary gods, as we destroy our eco system?
Regards
DL
If you do not see god in all, you will never find god at all, --- is how I sometimes put it.
Are you a Gnostic?
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DL
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Re: Would a naturalistic view of god be beneficial during our present animal extinction event?
the gospel of toothpick?
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Re: Would a naturalistic view of god be beneficial during our present animal extinction event?
How impernitent of you.
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Re: Would a naturalistic view of god be beneficial during our present animal extinction event?
No, I'm a fully awakened non-dualist. Consciousness (God), is the only thing in existence...based on personal first person experience...its not based on any kind of religious belief.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:36 pmI am a Gnostic Christian and that is a part of our ideology.Ramu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:22 pmYou ARE God in physical form thinking it's human. God is not something "out there" floating around separate from us.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:49 pm Would a naturalistic view of god be beneficial during our present animal extinction event?
Nature gives us life and spirit. Our spirit gives us god. A god within each of us is very ancient thinking.
We cannot define our gods exactly. We can only use analogies.
I think that supernatural gods do not need anything from us. They do not need toys.
If we are to serve any god, it should be one that gives life and that is Earth.
Earth cannot speak. Only life in the form of a man can.
In the natural world, all life worships its own natural likeness. All except man.
Why are we fighting nature, and idol worshiping imaginary gods, as we destroy our eco system?
Regards
DL
If you do not see god in all, you will never find god at all, --- is how I sometimes put it.
Are you a Gnostic?
Regards
DL
Re: Would a naturalistic view of god be beneficial during our present animal extinction event?
Specify please.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:49 pm Would a naturalistic view of god be beneficial during our present animal extinction event?
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Re: Would a naturalistic view of god be beneficial during our present animal extinction event?
Non dualist? Is there no Yin to go with your Yang?Ramu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:44 amNo, I'm a fully awakened non-dualist. Consciousness (God), is the only thing in existence...based on personal first person experience...its not based on any kind of religious belief.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:36 pmI am a Gnostic Christian and that is a part of our ideology.
If you do not see god in all, you will never find god at all, --- is how I sometimes put it.
Are you a Gnostic?
Regards
DL
Pick an issue and show us how a non dualist thinks please. Something simple like hot or evil.
It happens that I too have had a telepathic encounter with what I think you are calling god's consciousness.
Tell us of yours and what the great teacher taught you.
I learned that I am one of many distinct consciousness' within a cosmic one so one cannot really say that god is all as he is not alone, in terms of independent sentience.
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DL
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Re: Would a naturalistic view of god be beneficial during our present animal extinction event?
If you are not aware of what environmentalists and those who know of our eco system say about this major extinction event, google can help you more than I.HexHammer wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:32 amSpecify please.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:49 pm Would a naturalistic view of god be beneficial during our present animal extinction event?
I could do the work for you, but too often, I have done so just to have the other dislike my source and ignore the material.
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DL
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Specify please.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:49 pm Would a naturalistic view of god be beneficial during our present animal extinction event?
[/quote]"naturalistic view" seems very subjective and confusing since it has too wide an interpretation.
Re: Would a naturalistic view of god be beneficial during our present animal extinction event?
Yes there is a Yin to my Yan. First of all duality is a part of non duality....as in all things being One. There is only One Consciousness (God, Source, Brahman, Teotl (from the ancient Aztecs...they were non dualists). Your body is a projection literally coming out of nothing (No Thing). Your body, your thoughts about being DL and who DL is.....is all a mirage. There is no Ramu either. You are God in physical form. Prior to this you were formless. Form=Formless...two sides of the Same coin which is Consciousness..aka Source...aka ad naseum. Most people of the materialist mindset can't get this....because they are in paradigm lock (physicalism) and they are closed minded....and the worst part....is they think they are "separate" from the Universe...not knowing that they ARE the Universe.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:51 pmNon dualist? Is there no Yin to go with your Yang?Ramu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:44 amNo, I'm a fully awakened non-dualist. Consciousness (God), is the only thing in existence...based on personal first person experience...its not based on any kind of religious belief.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:36 pm
I am a Gnostic Christian and that is a part of our ideology.
If you do not see god in all, you will never find god at all, --- is how I sometimes put it.
Are you a Gnostic?
Regards
DL
Pick an issue and show us how a non dualist thinks please. Something simple like hot or evil.
It happens that I too have had a telepathic encounter with what I think you are calling god's consciousness.
Tell us of yours and what the great teacher taught you.
I learned that I am one of many distinct consciousness' within a cosmic one so one cannot really say that god is all as he is not alone, in terms of independent sentience.
Regards
DL