What good is a good god, when people want an evil god?

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What good is a good god, when people want an evil god?

Post by Greatest I am » Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:06 pm

What good is a good god, when people want an evil god?

The Gnostic Cathars thought themselves to be a peaceful good man religion and basically the only good non-violent Christians.

History is showing that that was true. That is due to the fact that they did not war against other religions the way the other Christians of those days did. As Christians and other religionists will attest, and usually don’t, that all the religions in those days were war like and war loving. They gorged on blood and shit.

Most except for esoteric ecumenist Gnostics, who warred with their mouths, instead of inquisitions, jihads and holy wars.

Gnostics knew how to live in peace, but as history has shown us, the good die young and the evil grows threw murder and corruption. Hurray for the mainstream religions.

Gnostic against Gnostic is nice because, as esoteric ecumenists, we respect each other as doing what Jesus taught and that was to seek god perpetually, but never find him. Jesus was from an old school single eye shaman or guru training in Egypt, knowledge seekers and not god worshipers; and told us to look to our emotions as well as our minds for the best rules and laws to live by.

We know what those best laws are but do not implement them; because they lead to piece and people want the drama of war.

You are not following a good god, you are following man’s law and Trump shows how badly all of man’s laws are working.

We have all put the god of money above all the gods except for the most evil gods that man has created.
The Yahweh and Allah twins.

We have no choice in this thanks to our oligarch masters.

The Yahweh and Allah twins cannot possibly exist. He would certainly punish such a flagrant insult. Instead, the twins hide. Being made in our image, god is quite insecure. That is what being good does, as the good know that when people want a powerful god, that basically means that they are evil as well, as they are to emulate god. A genocidal god who kills when he can cure.

We follow secular law and not god’s barbaric laws.

We look for security in dollars and war and not god’s power.

Secular law is teaching us better morals and ethics than religions.

God should capitulate because he has lost the war.

We have all put another god above all the gods.

Religions die hard. Laïcité is cushioning the blows as gently as it can but too many religionists will still die. Unless the world goes esoteric ecumenist like Jesus was.

It is too bad that we all want gods of war instead of a god of peace.

Do you have any idea as to how to mitigate that bias?

It might be written in our selfish gene and wanting an evil god might be good.

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Re: What good is a good god, when people want an evil god?

Post by gaffo » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:48 pm

Greatest I am wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:06 pm
as the good know that when people want a powerful god, that basically means that they are evil as well, as they are to emulate god. A genocidal god who kills when he can cure.
yes, refer to Amos.

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Re: What good is a good god, when people want an evil god?

Post by Dontaskme » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:05 am

Greatest I am wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:06 pm
What good is a good god, when people want an evil god?
If people want an evil god then that's what they'll get because whom ever thinks about the concept and believes in that concept will self-willingly create the concept in the mind...and so what can be done about that created concept? ..can that which is created uncreate itself?

What else is there to discuss?



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Re: What good is a good god, when people want an evil god?

Post by Greatest I am » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:27 pm

Dontaskme wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:05 am
Greatest I am wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:06 pm
What good is a good god, when people want an evil god?
If people want an evil god then that's what they'll get because whom ever thinks about the concept and believes in that concept will self-willingly create the concept in the mind...and so what can be done about that created concept? ..can that which is created uncreate itself?

What else is there to discuss?
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Yes. A god can be deconstructed.

A mind can heel itself of an affliction.

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Re: What good is a good god, when people want an evil god?

Post by Greatest I am » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:27 pm

gaffo wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:48 pm
Greatest I am wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:06 pm
as the good know that when people want a powerful god, that basically means that they are evil as well, as they are to emulate god. A genocidal god who kills when he can cure.
yes, refer to Amos.
That is a long story.

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Re: What good is a good god, when people want an evil god?

Post by Dontaskme » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:59 pm

Greatest I am wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:27 pm
Dontaskme wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:05 am
Greatest I am wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:06 pm
What good is a good god, when people want an evil god?
If people want an evil god then that's what they'll get because whom ever thinks about the concept and believes in that concept will self-willingly create the concept in the mind...and so what can be done about that created concept? ..can that which is created uncreate itself?

What else is there to discuss?
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Yes. A god can be deconstructed.

A mind can heel itself of an affliction.

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No. God can’t be deconstructed.

An Evil or Good attribute attributed to God can.

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Re: What good is a good god, when people want an evil god?

Post by gaffo » Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:37 am

Greatest I am wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:27 pm
gaffo wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:48 pm
Greatest I am wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:06 pm
as the good know that when people want a powerful god, that basically means that they are evil as well, as they are to emulate god. A genocidal god who kills when he can cure.
yes, refer to Amos.
That is a long story.

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DL

The work is around 20 pages - it would take you maybe 2 hours to read it.

so, not a long story (one about Pride of the elect (YHWH's chosen being a responsibility rather than a privaledge)) btw.

have your read it? if not, i recommend you do.

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Re: What good is a good god, when people want an evil god?

Post by Greatest I am » Sat Jul 06, 2019 5:05 pm

Dontaskme wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:59 pm
Greatest I am wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:27 pm
Dontaskme wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:05 am


If people want an evil god then that's what they'll get because whom ever thinks about the concept and believes in that concept will self-willingly create the concept in the mind...and so what can be done about that created concept? ..can that which is created uncreate itself?

What else is there to discuss?
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Yes. A god can be deconstructed.

A mind can heel itself of an affliction.

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DL
No. God can’t be deconstructed.

An Evil or Good attribute attributed to God can.

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6 of one, 1/2 dozen of the other.

We have no argument.

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Re: What good is a good god, when people want an evil god?

Post by Greatest I am » Sat Jul 06, 2019 5:08 pm

gaffo wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:37 am
Greatest I am wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:27 pm
gaffo wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:48 pm


yes, refer to Amos.
That is a long story.

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The work is around 20 pages - it would take you maybe 2 hours to read it.

so, not a long story (one about Pride of the elect (YHWH's chosen being a responsibility rather than a privaledge)) btw.

have your read it? if not, i recommend you do.
There are more than one view of Yahweh.

Seen the Jewish way, he is not a bad god. Seem the Christian way, he is a genocidal p****.

Best to just rid ourselves of all of our fantasies.

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Re: What good is a good god, when people want an evil god?

Post by HexHammer » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:07 am

When Jesus returns he will abolish religion which is foretold in many prophecies

Prophecy of the popes: "the city of the 7 hills will be destroyed (ie Rome/Mecca)"
http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.asp

Book of Revelation: "and I saw no temple in the new city (New Jerusalem)"

Muslim hadhit: "Eisa bin Maryam (Jesus son of Mary) will break the cross" and "no one will visit the Kaaba"

Problem with religion that the interpretations will always allow violent actions. When religion rule a nation, everything will descend to nonsense since religious people will put religion higher than common sense!

Why would you abolish abortion even in rape cases? Because of religion! The holy written word stand highest!

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Re: What good is a good god, when people want an evil god?

Post by Greatest I am » Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:18 pm

HexHammer wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:07 am
When Jesus returns he will abolish religion which is foretold in many prophecies

Prophecy of the popes: "the city of the 7 hills will be destroyed (ie Rome/Mecca)"
http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.asp

Book of Revelation: "and I saw no temple in the new city (New Jerusalem)"

Muslim hadhit: "Eisa bin Maryam (Jesus son of Mary) will break the cross" and "no one will visit the Kaaba"

Problem with religion that the interpretations will always allow violent actions. When religion rule a nation, everything will descend to nonsense since religious people will put religion higher than common sense!

Why would you abolish abortion even in rape cases? Because of religion! The holy written word stand highest!
The prophesies say that we are to elect a god.
That is why I advocate following a man or woman as spiritual leader.
That is why Jesus never returned, not that he could anyway. Dead people stay dead.

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Re: What good is a good god, when people want an evil god?

Post by gaffo » Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:05 pm

Greatest I am wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 5:08 pm
gaffo wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:37 am
Greatest I am wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:27 pm


That is a long story.

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DL

The work is around 20 pages - it would take you maybe 2 hours to read it.

so, not a long story (one about Pride of the elect (YHWH's chosen being a responsibility rather than a privaledge)) btw.

have your read it? if not, i recommend you do.
There are more than one view of Yahweh.

Seen the Jewish way, he is not a bad god. Seem the Christian way, he is a genocidal p****.

Best to just rid ourselves of all of our fantasies.

Regards
DL
so...................... you have not read it?

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Re: What good is a good god, when people want an evil god?

Post by gaffo » Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:14 pm

HexHammer wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:07 am
When Jesus returns he will abolish religion which is foretold in many prophecies

Prophecy of the popes: "the city of the 7 hills will be destroyed (ie Rome/Mecca)"
http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.asp

Book of Revelation: "and I saw no temple in the new city (New Jerusalem)"

Muslim hadhit: "Eisa bin Maryam (Jesus son of Mary) will break the cross" and "no one will visit the Kaaba"
thanks for the Koran quote, not know if it.

interesting, and concur with the concept.


HexHammer wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:07 am
Problem with religion that the interpretations will always allow violent actions. When religion rule a nation, everything will descend to nonsense since religious people will put religion higher than common sense!
sadly.

HexHammer wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:07 am
Why would you abolish abortion even in rape cases? Because of religion! The holy written word stand highest!

I'm not anti-abortion - view the clump of cells as not a human being.

but others view the clump as a human.

and being born from rape (Ezekiel denied inherited guilt) does make the clump of cells from a rapist lesser in value than a clump of cells born from a spouse?

if you reject Ezekiel and think all of us by our birth/existance have a degraded "soul".

the child of a rapist has a lower soul.

i have a lower soul, due to my ancesters having slaves

etc..................

well?

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Re: What good is a good god, when people want an evil god?

Post by Greatest I am » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:01 pm

gaffo wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:05 pm
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so...................... you have not read it?
I do not have the time at present and do not care much about what is said of an imaginary god and his sheeple on this topic as it would all be speculative nonsense.

With all that has been written about Yahweh and his immoral followers, do you not think we would have highlighted it in the last 2,000 years if it was worthy?

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Re: What good is a good god, when people want an evil god?

Post by HexHammer » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:10 pm

gaffo wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:14 pm
I'm not anti-abortion - view the clump of cells as not a human being.
Never meant to accuse you of that, it was merely general religious speaking, pure rhetoric.

But yes in the end so much religious stuff end in nonsense, which is why religion will be abolished.

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