Ok you say religion is nonsense, which I may agree with some of the way, but do you have proof that there are no god?
The prophecies seems very real to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH6Qu-UtV8M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoul4k8XNeg
Ok you say religion is nonsense, which I may agree with some of the way, but do you have proof that there are no god?
What do you make of Geertz’s definition of “religion”?osgart wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:01 pm Something that has meaningful coherency is intended and purposed to function for a reason.
The existence of a written letter 'A' demands meaningful coherency to exist and that demands human agency.
So too, the existence of organized life demands meaningful coherency and that demands intentional agency likewise.
I, a human life form, am analogous to the writing of the letter 'A'. The human form expresses intentionality in its construction, and purposes specific to its cause.
Meaningful Sense does not come from nonsense.
Therefore consciousness is in fact fundamental.
If consciousness is fundamental then an eternal source of it exists because meaningful coherence cannot come from incoherence, nor can it come from nonsense.
His definition of Religion is one that makes religion out to be dishonest manipulation using facts that create a seem of reality, so as to control people i would say.I Like Sushu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:19 amWhat do you make of Geertz’s definition of “religion”?osgart wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2019 9:01 pm Something that has meaningful coherency is intended and purposed to function for a reason.
The existence of a written letter 'A' demands meaningful coherency to exist and that demands human agency.
So too, the existence of organized life demands meaningful coherency and that demands intentional agency likewise.
I, a human life form, am analogous to the writing of the letter 'A'. The human form expresses intentionality in its construction, and purposes specific to its cause.
Meaningful Sense does not come from nonsense.
Therefore consciousness is in fact fundamental.
If consciousness is fundamental then an eternal source of it exists because meaningful coherence cannot come from incoherence, nor can it come from nonsense.
Sounds like an interesting book contrasting the religious experience with that of the non religious. Perhaps it seeks to understand the motives, and behaviours of religious people. The mystical experience can be quite powerful. The sacredness of certain spaces and places can hold special subjective meanings. And the profane is to not consider anything sacred i gather. Non religious people have mystical experiences too though.I Like Sushu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2019 5:11 am Osgart -
His definition can be applied to “money” or “language” too if you look closely. Generally I view it as a definition of human nature. He does write several pages of explanation. He doesn’t mention ‘controlling people’ anywhere in his book as far as I remember.
Anyway, how about Eliade? The Sacred and The Profane is a great book. I really like the use of the term “hierophant” to talk of the interaction of humans with the material world and how it relates to the cosmological view of the universe.
I have no proof that there are gods or not. Impossible to prove either way.HexHammer wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:11 pmOk you say religion is nonsense, which I may agree with some of the way, but do you have proof that there are no god?
The prophecies seems very real to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH6Qu-UtV8M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoul4k8XNeg
Contrary to science, a prophet hat to prove his worth with more reliable methods by foretelling the future with high success rate, else he will be stoned.
Yes! thanks for the correction!