Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:17 pm
gaffo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:04 pm
I don't speak for others, just myself.
Why?
- i have no time for jerks who know nothing of the concept of humility.
so fk off shallow egoist.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:17 pm
Don't you ever use logic, rationality or evidence?
i strive to.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:17 pm
Because those things are universal.
no they are not assumed to be universal.
ww1. ww2 etc shows that much - dolt.
They're also essential to philosophy.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:17 pm
I like the concept of freewill, but think it is not supported in the "holy books"
It is. I can't imagine why you think it isn't.
I suspect i've read more of the "Bible" than you "sir"
it does not affirm Freewill overall. instead it 3/4 of - when the subject is mentioned - affirms predestination instead.
deal with it - or more apt - pick up the "good book" - do you have a copy? - if not go buy one.
and READ IT.
jerk.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:17 pm
Every time somebody is made responsible for their actions, that implies free will.
nonsequitor, we were talking about "the bible" not "when somebody does".................
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:17 pm
If they were not free, there could be no responsibility.
duh, ..........and?
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:17 pm
As Kant said, "Ought implies can." If you
can't do something, then you can't have "ought to have done it." You
couldn't. You aren't responsible, then, because you aren't response-able.
Iknow of Emmanual, took a course on Ethics in college.
of the 5 or so folks we covered, i found Kant to be the least of them.
so let Kant say what he wishes and me to ignore if i find it empty.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:17 pm
I also see a bias of Pride/Hubris per the Freewill mentality.
Not logical.
whatever, you champion Egoism over Humility - as your prior post demeaning my nature for my inabliity to spell (that post showed your character is lesser).
so think what you wish - you are a small mind trapped in egoism - and not worth my time.
when/if you grow up and aquire Wisdom, then we can talk.
otherwise fk you Sir.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:17 pm
An entity that has no free will cannot have "pride."
to have Pride requires self awareness.
BUT self awareness does not mandate freewill.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:17 pm
Pride implies morality,
I'm not a Catholic, but affirm the concept of the Seven Sins.
Pride is NOT morality,
Pride = EGO.
and nothing more.
and EGO is not Moral.
Loving yourself - after knowing yourself, and so becoming Humble, THEN one can be moral, without PRIDE.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:17 pm
and morality entails free will.
no, it implies my above, to be a man or women who knows and so forgives themself for failures, and so is a moral person and HUMBLE.
its got noting to do with "Freewill".
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:17 pm
Likewise "humility": if there's no free will, then being humble is not a credit to anyone. It's just how things happened.
correct.
it is a credit to God - assuming there is one.
but you still link your concept of Humilty to "credit" (WOW! - the "ego in this one (YOU) is strong" (Yada).
one of goodwill does not do good works out of credit!
they do so - the honest ones of real character - as a product of thier character!
the def of humility!
"freewill" is not mandated in the above.
i guess you were born an egoist, to never be able to understand the nature of Humility - so be it.