Dontaskme wrote:No it does not embarrass me not reading or understanding anything about what philosophy has said. Why would I be embarrassed about something I have no knowledge of? ...
That wasn't what I was asking, I was asking how you can't feel smidgeon of embarrassment coming to a Philosophy forum without any knowledge of what Philosophy has said and still responding as if you know what is being said to you? For example, go and look-up what Dualism means in Philosophy and understand why your response was inane.
If I am breaking any forum code of conduct or rule here then why haven't I been banished to the sin bin or banned all together?
Because unlike most forums this one allows great lee-way in what is considered philosophical or not and thinks all should be allowed to spout their metaphysic even tho' it's generally already been said and discussed in great depth by those we call the philosophers.
Are you thick? ...do you not understand the conceptual word ( fiction)? It means no one knows...there is a knowing but no one knows it.
Is that too hard to grasp for you? ...
And yet you somehow knew that what is growing the grass is growing me?
Well duh! At least I own my own shit, I don't attempt to bury it. ...
Don't go hiking in the woods anytime soon.
Yes it's about birth and dead, the fictional beliefs imposed by no one upon nothing. ...
Just your metaphysical assertion but one I am interested in how you came to hold?
You have a bad memory, I've already explained all this to you, if you can't be bothered to remember what I'd said, then so be it, I'm not your pet parrot. ...
But we are the same so how am I having a 'bad memory'? You mean you have a 'bad memory' surely.
Every creature automatically knows how to exist in it's environment. ...
So now you have 'creatures'?
Animals don't claim thought as belonging to them..that's a human trait, and the human is deluded to think their thoughts are their own. The human brain got too big in that respect. You don't see animals grouping together plotting to blow up buildings, neither do you see them building churches of worship for some God that they believe exists. ...
No idea what this is all about but you do see animals grouping together to rape others of their species, you do see them grouping together to hunt down and beat others to death, etc.
Owning ''thoughts'' is very dangerous for the human...''thoughts'' in that respect are very destructive. ...
Does not your 'ONE' have all these thoughts? Are they not dangerous to 'it'?
I don't know what I AM..I know I Am because it's self-evident, but I have no idea what this I AM presence is or where it comes from or how it came to be. Or what a thought is, or what a thinker is except the thought itself which I have no knowledge of. ...
I didn't ask you what you were as I'm fairly confident I know what you are but what I asked you was do you think in language at times?
Can you describe what is occurring to you when you have a thought?
Where is the thinker? where is the thought?.... what is consciousness? where does the I (consciousness )begin and end? all these are concepts known...by the only kowing there is. It's not a 'someone' that knows. You are the knowing that cannot be known. It's all ONE.
A conceptual character (fiction) is known ..as and through that body mind mechanism when the concept arises one with the knowin...and while this is known in an instant, nothing else is known, nothing else is happening....if it was, then it would be appearing from this body mind mechanism here...because there is nothing outside of that arena here.
The idea ''over there'' comes from a still motionless centre here. That motionless centre is consciousness, and consciousness is everywhere at once...it's the space in which everything appears...it does not move, is not born and cannot die. Only ''thought'' is born aka the mind. ...
There you go again, 'body mind mechanism'? Why is it so difficult for you to believe that thinking, consciousness, thoughts can arise from the being of a body with senses, memory and language in an external world?
Yes, the thinker and thought is imagination..it's fiction like I keep telling you. An image of the imageless, because the seer is inseparable from the seen. It's all one without a second like I keep telling you. ...
But thinking and thoughts are different? Or at least I have them as so, as thoughts and imagination are the sequenced melange of the representations given by the senses available due to having a memory and thinking is that which we can do via all that and the existence of language and internal voice.
I guess so...many of the ONE ..IT is all the same one appearing different where there is no difference. For Everything and Nothing is this eternal unknowable known SOURCE...from source to source an eternal spring. Source is unlimited and that's why it can manifest anything it likes because it's unlimited it will keep expanding forever and ever and ever add infinitum. ...
Ok, very like Spinoza's 'God' but then you have Kant and he points out that if you are going to ask 'Why?' and have causation of phenomena than you are going to have a noumena which you cannot know anything at all about and can paint any metaphysic you like upon 'it', so you have this 'ONE', others have a 'GOD', others have a 'Computer' or a 'Sim', etc, and all pretty much have to have 'it' as an uncaused cause but in reality all have zero knowledge of what 'it' actually is. This is why I ask you how you know or what it was you did to have obtained all this knowledge about an unknowable entity?
No one is talking about anything. There's just talking happening for no reason spontaneously and automatically about anything by no one... no one thinks before speaking, it's automatic...when you do stop to think before speaking, all that is happening there is memory recall, referring to memory of what to say next....because if you already knew what to say, then you'd just say it automatically without thinking.
No one knows anything, all knowledge is from memory on demand, a fictional knowledge since what is memory but that which is of past tense giving the illusory appearance of autonomy now...in a single unbroken seamless continuity now.
All verbal expression is an auditory illusion of sound sourced in silence heard as words...unexplained not-knowing (phenomena) known in the instant it arises to no one. Is this idea too hard for you to grasp hold of?
"you"? I'm surprised you don't faint from cognitive dissonance at times.
There's just here concepts arising to no one from no thing, everything is the void expressing the void, being the void and returning to the void...it's all much a do about nothing...even when it appears it's much a do about everything ..it's still much a do about nothing appearing as much a do about everything.
Everything that appears defaults back to zero.. SOURCE. ...
Like I say, whenever I see CAPS I know I'm talking to someone who doesn't actually know what they are talking about.
You can negate every conceivable concept under the sun..but you cannot negate SOURCE
You have no idea whether such a thing exists and if it does then you have the same old problems that face any such metaphysic, i.e. an uncaused cause, an unknowable thing, etc and in your case apparently a conscious one so you have the problem of what is conscious of 'it'?
There is nothing that you and I are saying that is not source, so it matters not what you say or I say, it's all source saying so. This exchange is source talking to itself...appearing as many voices and things...many of the ONE.
Of course it is but I wonder how you know this?