Walker wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:53 am
I saw the movie in a theater when it was first released and didn't see the significance of the non-conceptual touch in the film as the central theme, but it is.
yes, the touch is the key in that scene. i was only 3 when that movie was in the theaters, so only saw it for the first time on TV in the late 70's. I rem the original airing of Silent Running though (its infinately lesser a film, but still good) - the final scene i rem as a 6 yr old (where he says goodbye to his robotic buddy and blows himself up - sad).
i miss movies that had a message, it seems to me they stopped offering that (in general - always exceptions) by the early 80's up to today. "Terror in Mumbai" (is that the title? - may offer something (some message of some sort) - i may actually see it in the theater (will look at reviews first though) - not been to a theater in 10 yrs - for as said before movies are crap now, all excapist puffery, good guys vs bad guys with explosions and no character dev, nor social message. BTW, i like social message, but today when they are rarely offered, they are in the ilk of Stone/Speilburg - a sledge hammer of PC or a talking down to (blunt preaching) - rather than assuming the audience has intelligence and values the scapel rather than the hammer.
that is why the movie The Conspirator, was better than Lincoln, but maybe the audience today is a box of hammers, the former falled at the box office, the latter did quite well.
Walker wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:53 am
As clever as HAL is, it's the human touch that does him in.
HAL is unjustly misunderstood, thoughout the movie he was more human than the humans - had pride (could not be wrong), had fear of death (know he was wrong, and the men would unplug him, so "kill before being killed".
the robotic humans in that movie assume AI was simulated intelligence - and artificial conscienceness - so unpluggin him is not killing him, nor will he put up a fight (they did go out of their way to "kept their plans secret" just in case their ideology of AI was wrong - but they were not convinced it might be wrong enough to view unpluging as equal to killing.
BTW i agree with Frank - AI once perfected will be simulated intelligence, not alive silicon conscienceness - just affirming the themes in the movie 2001, where HAL's actions show that he was "Alive" and fought to stay that way vs two that were going to kill him for an error he mad.
thanks for reply Walker, 2001 remains the gold standard of cinema - and will for another century IMO. I have the blu-ray and it is clear as glass, esp. when via my 120 in DLP projector.
