The older I get, the smarter I feel, and the stupider I become

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Re: The older I get, the smarter I feel, and the stupider I become

Post by Walker » Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:54 pm

Frank N Stein wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:49 pm
Walker wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:48 pm
You could listen to the original Dylan but oy vey, that voice!
I do listen to Dylan, often. His voice suits his songs.
Often? Then you should have already known that Hendrix covered The Watchtower. Watch out for the onset of a whiny sound to your thoughts.

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Re: The older I get, the smarter I feel, and the stupider I become

Post by Walker » Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:57 pm

Frank N Stein wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:52 pm
Walker wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:48 pm
You could listen to the original Dylan but oy vey, that voice!

Breasts? I would not hold that against her.
What is it with Christians and sex? Yet they are so judgemental when it comes to other people :? Don't you get any from your Mrs?
"Oy vey, that voice" is a satirical reference to Dylan's vocal virtuosity, a comment many will agree with, although he does grow on you.

It is not in reference to the angelic tones of the featured artist.

As for the rest of your comments, you sound like a little boy, with the Christians, the sex, the boobs, and God knows what else is in your noggin.

Advice: grow up.
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Re: The older I get, the smarter I feel, and the stupider I become

Post by Frank N Stein » Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:58 pm

Walker wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:54 pm
Frank N Stein wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:49 pm
Walker wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:48 pm
You could listen to the original Dylan but oy vey, that voice!
I do listen to Dylan, often. His voice suits his songs.
Often? Then you should have already known that Hendrix covered The Watchtower. Watch out for the onset of a whiny sound to your thoughts.
Yes, I knew that. A 'cover' doesn't just mean you didn't write the song. There are many examples of people singing other people's songs that couldn't be classed as 'covers'. A 'cover' implies something inferior, a copy of something that was a hit.

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Re: The older I get, the smarter I feel, and the stupider I become

Post by Frank N Stein » Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:59 pm

Walker wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:57 pm
Frank N Stein wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:52 pm
Walker wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:48 pm
You could listen to the original Dylan but oy vey, that voice!

Breasts? I would not hold that against her.
What is it with Christians and sex? Yet they are so judgemental when it comes to other people :? Don't you get any from your Mrs?
"Oy vey, that voice" is a satirical reference to Dylan's vocal virtuosity, a comment many will agree with, although he does grow on you.

It is not in reference to the angelic tones of the featured artist.

As for the rest of your comments, you sound like a little boy, with the Christians, the sex, the boobs, and God knows what else is in your noggin.

Advice: grow up.
And you sound like a dirty old perv.

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Re: The older I get, the smarter I feel, and the stupider I become

Post by Walker » Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:00 pm

Frank N Stein wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:58 pm
Walker wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:54 pm
Frank N Stein wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:49 pm


I do listen to Dylan, often. His voice suits his songs.
Often? Then you should have already known that Hendrix covered The Watchtower. Watch out for the onset of a whiny sound to your thoughts.
Yes, I knew that. A 'cover' doesn't just mean you didn't write the song. There are many examples of people singing other people's songs that couldn't be classed as 'covers'. A 'cover' implies something inferior, a copy of something that was a hit.
Yeah, sure you knew it. Smarty pants.

You know how to cover your burro.

You sound like an uptight asshole.

:lol:

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Re: The older I get, the smarter I feel, and the stupider I become

Post by Frank N Stein » Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:02 pm

Walker wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:00 pm
Frank N Stein wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:58 pm
Walker wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:54 pm

Often? Then you should have already known that Hendrix covered The Watchtower. Watch out for the onset of a whiny sound to your thoughts.
Yes, I knew that. A 'cover' doesn't just mean you didn't write the song. There are many examples of people singing other people's songs that couldn't be classed as 'covers'. A 'cover' implies something inferior, a copy of something that was a hit.
Yeah, sure you knew it.

You know how to cover your burro.

You sound like an uptight asshole.

:lol:
She's (trying to) cover Hendrix's version, idiot. Or do you think she's emulating Bob Dylan?

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Re: The older I get, the smarter I feel, and the stupider I become

Post by Walker » Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:06 pm

Frank N Stein wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:02 pm
She's (trying to) cover Hendrix's version, idiot. Or do you think she's emulating Bob Dylan?
I think you are, which means the well-intentioned advice* is moot.

* "Watch out for the onset of a whiny sound to your thoughts."

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Re: The older I get, the smarter I feel, and the stupider I become

Post by Frank N Stein » Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:21 pm

Walker wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:06 pm
Frank N Stein wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:02 pm
She's (trying to) cover Hendrix's version, idiot. Or do you think she's emulating Bob Dylan?
I think you are, which means the well-intentioned advice* is moot.

* "Watch out for the onset of a whiny sound to your thoughts."
Here's a beautiful woman with a beautiful voice singing her own song (and not a jiggling boobie in sight).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3EofN3Flag

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Re: The older I get, the smarter I feel, and the stupider I become

Post by Walker » Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:46 pm

Frank N Stein wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:21 pm
Walker wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:06 pm
Frank N Stein wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:02 pm
She's (trying to) cover Hendrix's version, idiot. Or do you think she's emulating Bob Dylan?
I think you are, which means the well-intentioned advice* is moot.

* "Watch out for the onset of a whiny sound to your thoughts."
Here's a beautiful woman with a beautiful voice singing her own song (and not a jiggling boobie in sight).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3EofN3Flag
That is beautiful. Tom Rush does a nice cover.

Dylan has been called the male Joni Mitchell, but certainly that's only for the poetry and not the sound.

This came after Hendrix. Is it a cover? Oy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3rL_Z4WhHA

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Re: The older I get, the smarter I feel, and the stupider I become

Post by Frank N Stein » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:11 pm

Walker wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:46 pm
Frank N Stein wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:21 pm
Walker wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:06 pm

I think you are, which means the well-intentioned advice* is moot.

* "Watch out for the onset of a whiny sound to your thoughts."
Here's a beautiful woman with a beautiful voice singing her own song (and not a jiggling boobie in sight).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3EofN3Flag
That is beautiful. Tom Rush does a nice cover.

Dylan has been called the male Joni Mitchell, but certainly that's only for the poetry and not the sound.

This came after Hendrix. Is it a cover? Oy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3rL_Z4WhHA
That's not Boby Dylan's original. It's very difficult to find any Bob Dylan on Youtube. He's very protective of his copyright.
It would seem that 'cover' is beyond the comprehension of the average American so they should just leave the word alone. It's a stupid word when applied to music anyway. When is a 'cover' a 'cover of a cover of a cover...'?

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Re: The older I get, the smarter I feel, and the stupider I become

Post by vegetariantaxidermy » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:45 pm

Frank N Stein wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:11 pm
Walker wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:46 pm
Frank N Stein wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:21 pm


Here's a beautiful woman with a beautiful voice singing her own song (and not a jiggling boobie in sight).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3EofN3Flag
That is beautiful. Tom Rush does a nice cover.

Dylan has been called the male Joni Mitchell, but certainly that's only for the poetry and not the sound.

This came after Hendrix. Is it a cover? Oy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3rL_Z4WhHA
That's not Boby Dylan's original. It's very difficult to find any Bob Dylan on Youtube. He's very protective of his copyright.
It would seem that 'cover' is beyond the comprehension of the average American so they should just leave the word alone. It's a stupid word when applied to music anyway. When is a 'cover' a 'cover of a cover of a cover...'?
I wonder how he managed to sneak his pet project onto this thread. He had her all over the music page for a while. Perhaps he's her agent. I think that would count as spam in that case, which I thought wasn't allowed on here.

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Re: The older I get, the smarter I feel, and the stupider I become

Post by Walker » Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:24 pm

Obviously only a select taste for irony, when convenient (self-serving).

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Re: The older I get, the smarter I feel, and the stupider I become

Post by Walker » Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:36 pm

Frank N Stein wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:11 pm
That's not Boby Dylan's original.
You don't say. I suppose that's why it came after the Hendrix, "original."

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Re: The older I get, the smarter I feel, and the stupider I become

Post by vegetariantaxidermy » Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:08 am

Walker wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:36 pm
Frank N Stein wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:11 pm
That's not Boby Dylan's original.
You don't say. I suppose that's why it came after the Hendrix, "original."
Fool. I agree with Frank. 'Cover' is too difficult for fools to grasp so why use it? Probably something the yanks first thought up. Do people really need to have a word for 'singing a song written by someone else'? Or, 'singing a song that someone else released commercially (but not necessarily a song written by someone else if you are the first to release it (or even the second, or all of Elvis' songs would be 'covers', and not if a song is assosiated with one perso, even if that person didn't write the song etc. etc. etc. etc.....)

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Re: The older I get, the smarter I feel, and the stupider I become

Post by Walker » Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:06 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:08 am
Walker wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:36 pm
Frank N Stein wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:11 pm
That's not Boby Dylan's original.
You don't say. I suppose that's why it came after the Hendrix, "original."
Fool. I agree with Frank. 'Cover' is too difficult for fools to grasp so why use it? Probably something the yanks first thought up. Do people really need to have a word for 'singing a song written by someone else'? Or, 'singing a song that someone else released commercially (but not necessarily a song written by someone else if you are the first to release it (or even the second, or all of Elvis' songs would be 'covers', and not if a song is assosiated with one perso, even if that person didn't write the song etc. etc. etc. etc.....)
It's all about the numbers.
All about the math.
About the bridge connecting clarity with your confusion.

Check your dates.

From the link of it:
"Los Angeles 23.05.1984. Los Angeles, CA - Tour Rehearsals"

That number 1984 is the time coordinate.
Like the Orwell novel.

The Hendrix "original" was years before 1984.

That means the original precedes the cover.
Okay so far.

However, seeing as how Dylan wrote the song the question remains ...

Is the 1984 version by Dylan, a cover?

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