DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by Walker » Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:33 am

LW wrote:I don't know. It seems to make sense that it's hard to have clarity when one is filled with noise. What do you think?
Lacewing wrote:
Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:16 pm
Walker wrote:
Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:40 am
What would those conditions be for you...?
What would they be for YOU? As usual you refuse to answer questions that highlight what a self-serving, dishonest hypocrite you are, so answer your own slew of avoidance questions and fuck off.
For now, I prefer to allow you opportunities to express your clarity, instead of the usual fog.

And what do you know.

Voilà.

Your clarity of understanding stops at attack, not philosophy.

Have you not learned the transmorgification of anger energy into intelligence?
How about, from vague generalizations to specifics? That's clarifying.

Give 'er a go.

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by Nick_A » Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:33 pm

gaffo wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:15 am
Nick_A wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:56 am
America is unique in that unlike other countries which are built on tradition, America is built on values necessary to sustain a free society.
nonsence.

American inherited England's culture. England inherited it from the Nordic, German and French Normans.

all nations have "tradition" - to claim American did not is foolish.

just as to claim the opposite! - that other nation's cultures negate their Rule of Law constructs.

-- as stated above America culturally and legally is the same as Britian (and Canada, NZ and Australia) - since post ww2 its the same as Germany/France/all the other 20 small european nations, and Japan as well).
France has a french traditional culture, Russia a russian culture, Germany, a german culture and so on. America was founded on ideas leading to ideals with the purpose of preserving liberty. There is no american culture. It was a noble effort but the left has changed the ideals assuring the sacrifice of freedom for the believed advantages of statist slavery. We turn in circles. It is nature's way.

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by Nick_A » Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:42 pm

gaffo wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:20 am
Nick_A wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:37 am
Lacewing wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:29 am

Christianity is meaningless for anyone who recognizes the thousands of reasons that it's absurd.


Of all the "traditional marriage" throughout history, why do you think your contrived version is the ultimate representation?
If you don't know the purposes of Christianity, how can you be expected to know and appreciate the purpose of the traditional Christian marriage as an ideal? It must appear meaningless.

leaving aside "purpose" of christianity.

i'll answer your inquary as to the theology of Christianity (as an Atheist) - its that YHWH sent is one Son to earth to live upon it for s short span as the perfect man (without sinning), then to die for his Father (YHWH) for the sins (shortcomings via sin-nature of all men) as a sin offering for all men (but really only those men/women that accept Jesus as YHWH's sin-son offering). In order to overcome Death (ie. as death the enternal black - ie, to allow life after death).
You are arguing with Christendom. You don't understand the purpose of Christianity or its techniques and have no desire to do so. You seem closed in the way Simone Weil described the relationship between religion and atheism.
Religion in so far as it is a source of consolation is a hindrance to true faith; and in this sense atheism is a purification. I have to be an atheist with that part of myself which is not made for God. Among those in whom the supernatural part of themselves has not been awakened, the atheists are right and the believers wrong.
- Simone Weil, Faiths of Meditation; Contemplation of the divine
the Simone Weil Reader, edited by George A. Panichas (David McKay Co. NY 1977) p 417

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by Nick_A » Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:59 pm

gaffo
I affirm Secularism and oppose Hypocristy (including Religious Hypocrisy- which is rampant)

why do you oppose Secularism (which is the same as Secular Universal Humanism)?
Of course secular anything is maintained by hypocrisy including religious hypocrisy. Being aware of what is meant by the North Star doesn't refer to a personal god but rather opening to a vertical an inner direction which enables a person to receive the help of grace to nourish their fallen being,
"Humanism was not wrong in thinking that truth, beauty, liberty, and equality are of infinite value, but in thinking that man can get them for himself without grace." ~ Simone Weil
The problem with humanism is that it is incapable of realizing its own objectives. The fallen nature of human being prevents it. Opening to the help of grace requires a quality of humility secular humanism convinced of its own superiority seems incapable of.

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by Lacewing » Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:19 pm

Walker wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:33 am
Lacewing wrote:
Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:16 pm
As usual you refuse to answer questions that highlight what a self-serving, dishonest hypocrite you are...
For now, I prefer to allow you opportunities to express your clarity, instead of the usual fog.
More of your cowardly avoidance and dishonest attempts to stir up a fog to deflect and obstruct. A lame-ass pattern you seem strangely impressed by and addicted to when avoiding your own accountability. Which makes it clear that clarity is an enemy of your crap and your need for protecting it.

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by Walker » Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:42 pm

What the hell are you talking about.

:lol:

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by Frank N Stein » Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:50 pm

Nick_A wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:33 pm
gaffo wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:15 am
Nick_A wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:56 am
America is unique in that unlike other countries which are built on tradition, America is built on values necessary to sustain a free society.
nonsence.

American inherited England's culture. England inherited it from the Nordic, German and French Normans.

all nations have "tradition" - to claim American did not is foolish.

just as to claim the opposite! - that other nation's cultures negate their Rule of Law constructs.

-- as stated above America culturally and legally is the same as Britian (and Canada, NZ and Australia) - since post ww2 its the same as Germany/France/all the other 20 small european nations, and Japan as well).
France has a french traditional culture, Russia a russian culture, Germany, a german culture and so on. America was founded on ideas leading to ideals with the purpose of preserving liberty. There is no american culture. It was a noble effort but the left has changed the ideals assuring the sacrifice of freedom for the believed advantages of statist slavery. We turn in circles. It is nature's way.
Why would you argue with that? He's right.

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by Walker » Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:58 pm

From many, one.

Naturalization Oath of Allegiance to the United States of America

Oath
"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."

https://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/na ... es-america

*

So like, you don't come looking for refuge waving a foreign flag.

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by Walker » Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:09 pm

Lacewing wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:19 pm
Walker wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:33 am
Lacewing wrote:
Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:16 pm
As usual you refuse to answer questions that highlight what a self-serving, dishonest hypocrite you are...
For now, I prefer to allow you opportunities to express your clarity, instead of the usual fog.
More of your cowardly avoidance and dishonest attempts to stir up a fog to deflect and obstruct. A lame-ass pattern you seem strangely impressed by and addicted to when avoiding your own accountability. Which makes it clear that clarity is an enemy of your crap and your need for protecting it.
Dachshund, this is your thread.

Get that monkey off my back.

:D

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by Nick_A » Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:19 pm

Walker wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:58 pm
From many, one.

Naturalization Oath of Allegiance to the United States of America

Oath
"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."

https://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/na ... es-america

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So like, you don't come looking for refuge waving a foreign flag.
This is too insulting. Illegal aliens invading America are Entitled. It is your fault that these people now must invade America. They have been taken advantage of by the United States Constitution and its support of individuality in the cause of freedom. It is time that America gives them their just rewards. You must pay the bills of the entitled. Fork over the dough.

They don't have to swear allegiance to the United States, you have to swear to pay the bills for their being forced to invade America. This is social justice and who can argue with social justice? It is unthinkable.

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by Impenitent » Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:26 pm

Nick_A wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:19 pm
Walker wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:58 pm
From many, one.

Naturalization Oath of Allegiance to the United States of America

Oath
"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."

https://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/na ... es-america

*

So like, you don't come looking for refuge waving a foreign flag.
This is too insulting. Illegal aliens invading America are Entitled. It is your fault that these people now must invade America. They have been taken advantage of by the United States Constitution and its support of individuality in the cause of freedom. It is time that America gives them their just rewards. You must pay the bills of the entitled. Fork over the dough.

They don't have to swear allegiance to the United States, you have to swear to pay the bills for their being forced to invade America. This is social justice and who can argue with social justice? It is unthinkable.
invade... how ironic paleface

-Imp

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by Nick_A » Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:41 am

Impenitent wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:26 pm
Nick_A wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:19 pm
Walker wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:58 pm
From many, one.

Naturalization Oath of Allegiance to the United States of America

Oath
"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."

https://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/na ... es-america

*

So like, you don't come looking for refuge waving a foreign flag.
This is too insulting. Illegal aliens invading America are Entitled. It is your fault that these people now must invade America. They have been taken advantage of by the United States Constitution and its support of individuality in the cause of freedom. It is time that America gives them their just rewards. You must pay the bills of the entitled. Fork over the dough.

They don't have to swear allegiance to the United States, you have to swear to pay the bills for their being forced to invade America. This is social justice and who can argue with social justice? It is unthinkable.
invade... how ironic paleface

-Imp
You forget that it is believed the Lenape Indians sold Manhattan island to the settlers for $24. worth of goods. If they did and considering the way things are deteriorating on the island, the indians may eventually get the better of the deal.

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by Walker » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:17 am

Scalp the sheep, i.e., fleece the invaders in casinos with vices.

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by Age » Mon Jan 28, 2019 2:52 pm

Lacewing wrote:
Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:23 pm
Age wrote:
Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:20 am
What you call "spiritual nature" already has clarity, no matter how much human noise is being made.
What makes you think you know what I'm talking about, such that you can make such a claim?
Because of 'Spiritual' clarity, which overrides ALL human noise.
Lacewing wrote:
Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:23 pm
Age wrote:
Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:20 am
What you call "spiritual nature" is already crystal clear and very easily distinguishable from, what you call, "human nature". Achieving or acquiring clarity is very easy, even with all the noise that human beings make, and try to make.
Why do you suppose so many people would disagree with this?
Because mos human beings only know, and only listen to, human noise.

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Re: DIVERSITY IS AMERICA'S GREATEST STRENGTH

Post by Walker » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:19 pm

Invaded get paleface hooked on cheap cigarettes.

Invaders get paleface hooked on drugs.

Paleface must be fish.

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