Knowledge, encrypted in our brains or not

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Knowledge, encrypted in our brains or not

Post by bahman » Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:04 pm

One plausible theory is that the knowledge is encrypted in our brains and it somehow is decoded as a result of mental activity becoming ready for experience. Where the knowledge comes from? Evolution, by chance. Basically those creatures who by chance have more knowledge could survive better. What do you think? Do we acquire knowledge through interacting with reality or we just got it by chance? In first case, how do we acquire knowledge?

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Re: Knowledge, encrypted in our brains or not

Post by Veritas Aequitas » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:31 am

John Locke's theory of Tabula Rasa?
Nah!

Where do you think instincts come from?
Instincts are some kind a priori intrinsic "knowledge"*.
How does a one day old baby knows where and when to suckle?

* I often do not use 'knowledge' [JTB] in the above sense but just go along with the OP.
If knowledge = JTB, then knowledge to a person is a posteriori.

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Re: Knowledge, encrypted in our brains or not

Post by bahman » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:16 pm

Veritas Aequitas wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:31 am
John Locke's theory of Tabula Rasa?
Nah!

Where do you think instincts come from?
Instincts are some kind a priori intrinsic "knowledge"*.
How does a one day old baby knows where and when to suckle?

* I often do not use 'knowledge' [JTB] in the above sense but just go along with the OP.
If knowledge = JTB, then knowledge to a person is a posteriori.
What is JTB? The questions are how we could possibly gather a posteriori and a priori knowledge. Are both of them are acquired through process of information or it is just codded inside our brain?

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Re: Knowledge, encrypted in our brains or not

Post by Veritas Aequitas » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:04 am

bahman wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:16 pm
Veritas Aequitas wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:31 am
John Locke's theory of Tabula Rasa?
Nah!

Where do you think instincts come from?
Instincts are some kind a priori intrinsic "knowledge"*.
How does a one day old baby knows where and when to suckle?

* I often do not use 'knowledge' [JTB] in the above sense but just go along with the OP.
If knowledge = JTB, then knowledge to a person is a posteriori.
What is JTB? The questions are how we could possibly gather a posteriori and a priori knowledge. Are both of them are acquired through process of information or it is just codded inside our brain?
JTB???
Knowledge = JTB = Justified True Beliefs, is a basic theory of philosophy.

Scientific Knowledge or theories has the HIGHEST [not maximum] achieved degree of JTB but they are limited only a man-made and agreed upon Scientific Framework of Scientific Method and peer review.
Even when scientific knowledge is the best JTB available, at the best they are only 'polished conjectures' as argued by Karl Popper.

JTBs are always qualified to a Framework and System, i.e. standing alone by itself independently.

A priori versus a posteriori is equivalent to nature versus nurture.
Both are coded in our brain where a priori elements were coded in our DNA of the collective prior to one's birth.

You need to let the above sink in deep before you continue to spew your illusory ideas.

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Re: Knowledge, encrypted in our brains or not

Post by bahman » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:10 pm

Veritas Aequitas wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:04 am
Both are coded in our brain where a priori elements were coded in our DNA of the collective prior to one's birth.
If that is true then why we should put effort in gaining a priori knowledge. They should be evident to us like suckling in case of baby.

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Re: Knowledge, encrypted in our brains or not

Post by Age » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:59 pm

The absolute True, Right, and Correct Knowledge for human beings continual survival AND for this continued survival to be living in peace and harmony with each other forever more IS encrypted within the genes of the body. This Knowledge is unfortunately as of yet unconsciously, already, known by most human beings. When this Knowledge comes to light, then how it is already unconsciously known will be understood.

All other knowledge, however, is just learned, and passed on, along the way.

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Re: Knowledge, encrypted in our brains or not

Post by bahman » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:02 pm

Age wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:59 pm
The absolute True, Right, and Correct Knowledge for human beings continual survival AND for this continued survival to be living in peace and harmony with each other forever more IS encrypted within the genes of the body. This Knowledge is unfortunately as of yet unconsciously, already, known by most human beings. When this Knowledge comes to light, then how it is already unconsciously known will be understood.

All other knowledge, however, is just learned, and passed on, along the way.
I think so. Our brain however structured in a way to learn through the practice.

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Re: Knowledge, encrypted in our brains or not

Post by surreptitious57 » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:09 pm

Veritas Aequitas wrote:
Even when scientific knowledge is the best JTB available at the best they are only polished conjectures
Scientific knowledge is inductive which is why it can not ever be accepted as absolute
But the greater the knowledge is however over time then the more accurate it will be

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Re: Knowledge, encrypted in our brains or not

Post by Age » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:27 pm

bahman wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:02 pm
Age wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:59 pm
The absolute True, Right, and Correct Knowledge for human beings continual survival AND for this continued survival to be living in peace and harmony with each other forever more IS encrypted within the genes of the body. This Knowledge is unfortunately as of yet unconsciously, already, known by most human beings. When this Knowledge comes to light, then how it is already unconsciously known will be understood.

All other knowledge, however, is just learned, and passed on, along the way.
I think so. Our brain however structured in a way to learn through the practice.
That is WHY I said the True, Right, and Correct Knowledge is encrypted within the genes of the body, and not in the brain.

The human brain works solely by only what is put in is what can be put out. That is; only through what the body experiences can the brain gather and store knowledge, and then that stored knowledge is only what it can put out and pass onto other human brains.

The very reason why you human beings do NOT yet have the knowledge to live in a truly peaceful and pollution free world in harmony with each other YET is because absolutely NOT one of you has experienced that way of life YET. However, when you start to gain this Knowledge, then this Knowledge will be passed on, and It will spread like wild fire because it is NOT knowledge that at all contradicts with the True, Right, and Correct Knowledge that is already encrypted within the genes, like the false, wrong, and incorrect knowledge that has been passed on and continues to get passed on now, when this is written, IS. When you all start living peacefully together, without damaging the environment, then the younger human beings will see the older ones "doing what they preach", this will fit in much better with they already KNOW, and so they will be happier, which will transfer onto the older ones who will also be benefiting greatly, and then what has ALWAYS been encoded within the genes to eventuate, eventually, will come to surpass. Within a generation or two the whole "world" can be turned around and heading in the direction that EVERYONE wants to go.

The human brain just fulfills the PURPOSE of what being a human being IS. The human brain just learns, and then teaches. This unfortunately is the very reason WHY you human beings are living in the state of things that you are now, when this is written.
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Re: Knowledge, encrypted in our brains or not

Post by bahman » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:50 pm

Age wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:27 pm
bahman wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:02 pm
Age wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:59 pm
The absolute True, Right, and Correct Knowledge for human beings continual survival AND for this continued survival to be living in peace and harmony with each other forever more IS encrypted within the genes of the body. This Knowledge is unfortunately as of yet unconsciously, already, known by most human beings. When this Knowledge comes to light, then how it is already unconsciously known will be understood.

All other knowledge, however, is just learned, and passed on, along the way.
I think so. Our brain however structured in a way to learn through the practice.
That is WHY I said the True, Right, and Correct Knowledge is encrypted within the genes of the body, and not in the brain.
Yes. I think that we don't know that knowledge yet. We don't know how a fetus evolves and turns into a human being because we still do not know how uncoding happens during the process of growth.
Age wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:27 pm
The human brain works solely by only what is put in is what can be put out. That is; only through what the body experiences can the brain gather and store knowledge, and then that stored knowledge is only what it can put out and pass onto other human brains.
Yes.
Age wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:27 pm
The very reason why you human beings do NOT yet have the knowledge to live in a truly peaceful and pollution free world in harmony with each other YET is because absolutely NOT one of you has experienced that way of life YET. However, when you start to gain this Knowledge, then this Knowledge will passed on, and It will spread like wild fire because it is NOT knowledge that at all contradicts with the True, Right, and Correct Knowledge that is already encrypted within the genes, like the false, wrong, and correct knowledge that has been passed on and continues to get passed on now, when this is written, IS.
Evil is partly genetic too.
Age wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:27 pm
The human brain just fulfills the PURPOSE of what being a human being IS. The human brain just learns, and then teaches. This unfortunately is the very reason WHY you human beings are living in the state of things that you are now, when this is written.
Yes.

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Re: Knowledge, encrypted in our brains or not

Post by Age » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:45 am

bahman wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:50 pm
Age wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:27 pm
bahman wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:02 pm

I think so. Our brain however structured in a way to learn through the practice.
That is WHY I said the True, Right, and Correct Knowledge is encrypted within the genes of the body, and not in the brain.
Yes. I think that we don't know that knowledge yet.
Of course YOU do not know this Knowledge yet. But YOU also can NOT speak for EVERY one.
bahman wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:50 pm
We don't know how a fetus evolves and turns into a human being because we still do not know how uncoding happens during the process of growth.
Okay.

But are you now talking about the coding of The Knowledge of Good/Right and Bad/Wrong in Life, or just the coding of the process of normal physical genetic developmental growth?
bahman wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:50 pm
Age wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:27 pm
The human brain works solely by only what is put in is what can be put out. That is; only through what the body experiences can the brain gather and store knowledge, and then that stored knowledge is only what it can put out and pass onto other human brains.
Yes.
bahman wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:50 pm
Age wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:27 pm
The very reason why you human beings do NOT yet have the knowledge to live in a truly peaceful and pollution free world in harmony with each other YET is because absolutely NOT one of you has experienced that way of life YET. However, when you start to gain this Knowledge, then this Knowledge will be passed on, and It will spread like wild fire because it is NOT knowledge that at all contradicts with the True, Right, and Correct Knowledge that is already encrypted within the genes, like the false, wrong, and incorrect knowledge that has been passed on and continues to get passed on now, when this is written, IS. (This part was added after bahman's response here.....When you all start living peacefully together, without damaging the environment, then the younger human beings will see the older ones "doing what they preach", this will fit in much better with they already KNOW, and so they will be happier, which will transfer onto the older ones who will also be benefiting greatly, and then what has ALWAYS been encoded within the genes to eventuate, eventually, will come to surpass. Within a generation or two the whole "world" can be turned around and heading in the direction that EVERYONE wants to go.... )
Evil is partly genetic too.
Can you elaborate and/or provide some examples?
bahman wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:50 pm
Age wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:27 pm
The human brain just fulfills the PURPOSE of what being a human being IS. The human brain just learns, and then teaches. This unfortunately is the very reason WHY you human beings are living in the state of things that you are now, when this is written.
Yes.

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Re: Knowledge, encrypted in our brains or not

Post by bahman » Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:49 pm

I am so sorry. I missed this post.
Age wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:45 am
bahman wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:50 pm
Age wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:27 pm


That is WHY I said the True, Right, and Correct Knowledge is encrypted within the genes of the body, and not in the brain.
Yes. I think that we don't know that knowledge yet.
Of course YOU do not know this Knowledge yet. But YOU also can NOT speak for EVERY one.
Yes.
Age wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:45 am
bahman wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:50 pm
We don't know how a fetus evolves and turns into a human being because we still do not know how uncoding happens during the process of growth.
Okay.

But are you now talking about the coding of The Knowledge of Good/Right and Bad/Wrong in Life, or just the coding of the process of normal physical genetic developmental growth?
I am talking about uncoding process of the code which exists in DNA. There is no process of coding for DNA. Evolution of DNA is an adaptive-random process.
Age wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:45 am
bahman wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:50 pm
Age wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:27 pm
The human brain works solely by only what is put in is what can be put out. That is; only through what the body experiences can the brain gather and store knowledge, and then that stored knowledge is only what it can put out and pass onto other human brains.
Yes.
bahman wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:50 pm
Age wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:27 pm
The very reason why you human beings do NOT yet have the knowledge to live in a truly peaceful and pollution free world in harmony with each other YET is because absolutely NOT one of you has experienced that way of life YET. However, when you start to gain this Knowledge, then this Knowledge will be passed on, and It will spread like wild fire because it is NOT knowledge that at all contradicts with the True, Right, and Correct Knowledge that is already encrypted within the genes, like the false, wrong, and incorrect knowledge that has been passed on and continues to get passed on now, when this is written, IS. (This part was added after bahman's response here.....When you all start living peacefully together, without damaging the environment, then the younger human beings will see the older ones "doing what they preach", this will fit in much better with they already KNOW, and so they will be happier, which will transfer onto the older ones who will also be benefiting greatly, and then what has ALWAYS been encoded within the genes to eventuate, eventually, will come to surpass. Within a generation or two the whole "world" can be turned around and heading in the direction that EVERYONE wants to go.... )
Evil is partly genetic too.
Can you elaborate and/or provide some examples?
A serial killer who enjoys killing people. Evil and good are coded inside DNA and have related distributions.

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Re: Knowledge, encrypted in our brains or not

Post by Impenitent » Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:58 am

the form of killing is mischievous...

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Re: Knowledge, encrypted in our brains or not

Post by attofishpi » Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:12 pm

bahman wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:04 pm
One plausible theory is that the knowledge is encrypted in our brains and it somehow is decoded as a result of mental activity becoming ready for experience.
Knowledge can be viewed as solid state RAM in a computer, it is gained from our past experience of reality.
As a conscious being with experience, we can read from it, add to it, and once we acquire better reasoning, manipulate it to what we consider our best effort at rationalising the 'database'.

bahman wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:04 pm
Where the knowledge comes from? Evolution, by chance. Basically those creatures who by chance have more knowledge could survive better. What do you think? Do we acquire knowledge through interacting with reality or we just got it by chance?
It is by chance that we are generally of higher intelligence than our fellow mammals, and yes of course it is via interacting with reality.
bahman wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:04 pm
In first case, how do we acquire knowledge?
Ultimately you are asking, how are we conscious? Since without any consciousness, there is no method to store the knowledge and retrieve it at will.

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Re: Knowledge, encrypted in our brains or not

Post by bahman » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:43 pm

attofishpi wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:12 pm
bahman wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:04 pm
One plausible theory is that the knowledge is encrypted in our brains and it somehow is decoded as a result of mental activity becoming ready for experience.
Knowledge can be viewed as solid state RAM in a computer, it is gained from our past experience of reality.
As a conscious being with experience, we can read from it, add to it, and once we acquire better reasoning, manipulate it to what we consider our best effort at rationalising the 'database'.

bahman wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:04 pm
Where the knowledge comes from? Evolution, by chance. Basically those creatures who by chance have more knowledge could survive better. What do you think? Do we acquire knowledge through interacting with reality or we just got it by chance?
It is by chance that we are generally of higher intelligence than our fellow mammals, and yes of course it is via interacting with reality.
bahman wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:04 pm
In first case, how do we acquire knowledge?
Ultimately you are asking, how are we conscious? Since without any consciousness, there is no method to store the knowledge and retrieve it at will.
The question is how a limited code, DNA, can lead to such a complex structure, human brain.

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