An argument in favor of free will

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An argument in favor of free will

Post by bahman » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:32 pm

Think of a situation with two options. Suppose that you like both options equally. A deterministic system in such a situation halts. You can of course get out of this situation by choosing one option. Therefore you are free.

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Re: An argument in favor of free will

Post by Veritas Aequitas » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:37 am

bahman wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:32 pm
Think of a situation with two options. Suppose that you like both options equally. A deterministic system in such a situation halts. You can of course get out of this situation by choosing one option. Therefore you are free.
Great you are raising so many threads for discussion and keeping the forum active.
That lazy-to-raise-threads attofishpi will likely accuse you of being a thread spammer.

There is no such thing as absolute unconditional free will.
A prisoner will have the free will to walk around and shit whenever he likes but he does not have the free will to do it outside his cell and the prison walls.
A normal human will have the free will to do what he likes on Earth but is limited and conditioned to any laws and being human. A normal human don't have a free will to fly alone unaided into space like Superman.

Yes, humans are free but always conditioned by some sort of limitations, thus there is no absolute free will ever.

This business of the claim of absolute free will which is contentious is only yearned by theists so that their God can punish the sinful and non-believers in Hell.

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Re: An argument in favor of free will

Post by bahman » Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:08 pm

Veritas Aequitas wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:37 am
bahman wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:32 pm
Think of a situation with two options. Suppose that you like both options equally. A deterministic system in such a situation halts. You can of course get out of this situation by choosing one option. Therefore you are free.
Great you are raising so many threads for discussion and keeping the forum active.
That lazy-to-raise-threads attofishpi will likely accuse you of being a thread spammer.

There is no such thing as absolute unconditional free will.
A prisoner will have the free will to walk around and shit whenever he likes but he does not have the free will to do it outside his cell and the prison walls.
A normal human will have the free will to do what he likes on Earth but is limited and conditioned to any laws and being human. A normal human don't have a free will to fly alone unaided into space like Superman.

Yes, humans are free but always conditioned by some sort of limitations, thus there is no absolute free will ever.

This business of the claim of absolute free will which is contentious is only yearned by theists so that their God can punish the sinful and non-believers in Hell.
I am aware of limitation. That is why I start with options.

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