Frank N Stein wrote: ↑Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:31 pm
If you want to talk 'legal' then yes, he was 'allowed'. I think what we are talking about here is hypocrisy. Hypocrisy on the part of Asia Argento.
You are abusing the term 'teacher student' which implies a teacher and a vulnerable child, or very young adult. Universities are not the same environment as a school system. University students are assumed to be adults and to act like adults. Lecturers are simply there to lecture, not impose authority and tell students how to behave.
Humans are sexual creatures. Wherever you get humans you are going to get every kind of sexual behaviour you can think of. Men are going to make passes at women--some inept, some unwanted, some not--and vice versa. What's good for the goose...... Many women are very 'tactile' too--sitting on men's laps (often in front of their wives), touching their arms, thighs..... There's nothing anyone can do about it, unless you want to live in an oppressive, Victorian world of hypocrisy and fear.
Americans have always been known as unsophisticated hypocritical puritans so it's no surprise that 'me too' started in the US.
Apparently this is what young women are supposed to aspire to (but show a nipple and all hell breaks loose).
If you want to talk 'legal' then yes, he was 'allowed'.
Probably not:
https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2018/ ... punishment
In addition, if it is workplace related, as it was in many of the complaints against Krauss then in addition to the legal question there is the question of an institutions code of ethics. An institution that does nothing in response to credible allegations is legally liable for having a hostile work environment.
Moral and ethical issues are not limited to legal offenses. Such behavior is a violation of social norms.
I think what we are talking about here is hypocrisy. Hypocrisy on the part of Asia Argento.
You introduced her in a topic talking about Lawrence Krauss. Even if she is a hypocrite that does not invalidate the claims against Weinstein or Krauss or anyone else.
You are abusing the term 'teacher student' which implies a teacher and a vulnerable child, or very young adult.
Students are not defined by age. The University of Arizona’s policy does not define a student by age but by relationship to the university, including relationships to teachers. A graduate student is still a student and vulnerable because their future may be in the hands of a teacher or adviser.
Lecturers are simply there to lecture, not impose authority and tell students how to behave.
That’s funny because it is the "lecturer’s” behavior that is in violation with the university’s policies. Krauss was not just a lecturer, he was a thesis adviser and director of the university’s Origin Project. He was in a position of power and could make or break a graduate student’s career.
Humans are sexual creatures.
Look, you might not object to Krauss groping you, you might even enjoy it, but that does not mean he is free to grope whoever he wants.
What's good for the goose......
Really?! The fact that some women are physical does not mean that you are free to grope every woman you see. Does this really need to be explained to you? Do you ever go out in public? Do you have a job where you come in contact with other people?
Americans have always been known as unsophisticated hypocritical puritans so it's no surprise that 'me too' started in the US.
You can congratulate yourself on being so sophisticated, but one’s attitudes toward sex and being groped are two different things. If someone does not want to be groped by you then keep your hands off. It is really that simple.