You are telling me a lot of things that God isn't.
And very little about what God is.
This is a very apophatic approach...
Which is no different to epistemology.
You are telling me a lot of things that God isn't.
Do you understand what I do...I test my own knowledge against that of others regarding this entity.
But you haven't told us what you know about God!attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:37 pm Do you understand what I do...I test my own knowledge against that of others regarding this entity.
OK. Lets try. How big or small is it? On a scale of Planck to Universe where does God fit in?attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:37 pm It's interesting, hardly anyone has asked me about what I KNOW about God/'God's attributes.
You've been here since the start of December, how could you possibly ascertain that?Logik wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:45 pmBut you haven't told us what you know about God!attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:37 pm Do you understand what I do...I test my own knowledge against that of others regarding this entity.
From my comprehension, this entity IS reality. It fits in at a point below the Planck scale, a point where there is only a binary event, an event or not.Logik wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:45 pmOK. Lets try. How big or small is it? On a scale of Planck to Universe where does God fit in?attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:37 pm It's interesting, hardly anyone has asked me about what I KNOW about God/'God's attributes.
I used the search function. None of your claims are testable.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:58 pm You've been here since the start of December, how could you possibly ascertain that?
Oh. So you use the words "God", "Universe" and "reality" synonymously and interchangeably?attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:37 pm From my comprehension, this entity IS reality. It fits in at a point below the Planck scale, a point where there is only a binary event, an event or not.
No, not really, just with what we perceive as the universe.Logik wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:01 pmOh. So you use the word "God" synonymously with the word "Universe".attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:37 pm From my comprehension, this entity IS reality. It fits in at a point below the Planck scale, a point where there is only a binary event, an event or not.
Cool.
OK, so there is a difference between God and the Universe.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:03 pm No, not really, just with what we perceive as the universe.
How the fuck would I know? I am saying that reality IS God\'God's domain its construct - whether it projects the universe to us but isn't part of it...I don't know.Logik wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:05 pmOK, so there is a difference between God and the Universe.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:03 pm No, not really, just with what we perceive as the universe.
Tell us about those differences.
So we have two hypothesis on the table (good thing you recognise the binary nature of science!):attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:08 pm How the fuck would I know? I am saying that reality IS God\'God's domain its construct - whether it projects the universe to us but isn't part of it...I don't know.
1. Reality is the same entity as God (PAN_ENTHEISM) - yes I am a panentheist, not a pantheist.Logik wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:10 pmSo we have two hypothesis on the table (good thing you recognise the binary nature of existence):attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:08 pm How the fuck would I know? I am saying that reality IS God\'God's domain its construct - whether it projects the universe to us but isn't part of it...I don't know.
1. Reality is the same entity as God (Pantheism)
2. Reality is different entity from God
Can you devise an experiment which can disambiguate these two hypotheses?
WANKER.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:14 pm 1. Reality is the same entity as God (PAN_ENTHEISM) - yes I am a panentheist, not a pantheist.
No this was what I stated upon:--Logik wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:15 pmWANKER.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:14 pm 1. Reality is the same entity as God (PAN_ENTHEISM) - yes I am a panentheist, not a pantheist.
When I just asked you wether you use the words "God'", "Universe" and "reality" interchangeably you said no!
No, not really, just with what we perceive as the universe.Logik wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:01 pmOh. So you use the word "God" synonymously with the word "Universe".attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:37 pm From my comprehension, this entity IS reality. It fits in at a point below the Planck scale, a point where there is only a binary event, an event or not.
Cool.
Let me ask you again then.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:18 pm No, not really, just with what we perceive as the universe.
Yes you have the right to call me a wanker again in capital letters.. I don't agree with everything within definitions of pantheism or panetheism. Can we return to your original inquiry about the two points and how to distinguish them? Or are you still digging for a fight?Logik wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:19 pmLet me ask you again then.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:18 pm No, not really, just with what we perceive as the universe.
Is what you perceive to be God and what you perceive to be The Universe the same entity; or different entities?
You are still telling me what you DON'T agree with. Still very apophatic.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:22 pm Yes you have the right to call me a wanker again in capital letters.. I don't agree with everything within definitions of pantheism or panetheism. Can we return to your original inquiry about the two points and how to distinguish them? Or are you still digging for a fight?