Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:53 pm
TimeSeeker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:40 pm
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:31 pm
How exactly are you attempting to refute the argument that words within the English language are not of a natural etymology by introducing foreign words?
Engish is THE common protocol for communication of humans upon this 'dear' planet.
How exactly does your logic work Timeseeker?
It is ENGLISH where the anomalies are found.
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English is not a "thing". It doesn't fit neatly into a box.
It's an organism. It EVOLVES.
Whatever conception you have of "English" I bet it doesn't fit in a neat box!
Are American, British, Australian, South African English all "English"
Is "Google" an English word?
Further, the assertion that "English is the common protocol" is bullshit. Almost 3 times more people speak Mandarin than English!
attofishpi wrote:
Again - to re-clarify, I am not stating English is the most POPULIST language. I am stating it is the most COMMON PROTOCOL for communication between peoples from different countries, I used the example, that someone from Japan wanting to converse with someone from China are likely to revert to ENGLISH to communicate.
English, as evolving (as well as any other language for that matter), strictly observes each language as a boundary of movement in itself. A self-reflection of a culture over time and how they encapsulate the seemingly chaotic nature of there problems. Variation is strictly ordering mirroring itself through randomness where what we percieve as changing is strictly a constant existing through itself in the face of "nothingness".
Variation may in fact be rational.
Yes, in fact English is a great consumer of other languages, squeezing other European (and perhaps more) in to fill and further embellish its reportoire for the poets and playwrights etc..
But the very difficult task I have at hand, is that from my many years of experience of a 3rd party entity - some would call 'God - some would call, 'a simulator' if indeed the simulation hypothesis is correct, that KEY words, mainly pertaining to life, have been construed by aforementioned '3rd Party'.
A difficult task indeed.
Indeed, I know from 21yrs of experience, that the synapses within our brains are part of 'its' makeup - they are able to be 'read from', and 'written to', giving this entity the means to construe KEY English words into their present form.
The thread title
Dichotomy and anomalies beyond etymology of English - I could start by bringing into play the dichotomy of words such as:-
EVIL - the reverse of LIVE
This would likely not appear as any dichotomy to anyone, that has not experienced this 'God' entity - the truth that 'God' is not ENTIRELY benevolent.
From experience, when 'God' is doing EVIL to you, it is extremely hard to LIVE. (..without the details, 'it' had its reason)
So now, from the perspective of one that has experienced this entity, one can see the DICHOTOMY between LIVE and EVIL.
So now, we come to the point of each words root 'ETYMOLOGY'
LIVE
Middle English, from Old English lifian (Anglian), libban (West Saxon) "to be, be alive, have life; continue in life; to experience," also "to supply oneself with food, procure a means of subsistence; pass life in a specified fashion,"
EVIL
Old English yfel (Kentish evel) "bad, vicious, ill, wicked," from Proto-Germanic *ubilaz (source also of Old Saxon ubil, Old Frisian and Middle Dutch evel, Dutch euvel, Old High German ubil, German übel, Gothic ubils), from PIE *upelo-, from root *wap- "bad, evil" (source also of Hittite huwapp- "evil").
So, now to the ANOMALY in the above. It is not natural to their etymology that these words, now in this current form happen to be the REVERSE spelling of each other.
This is the tip of the iceberg.
PRAY
early 13c., "ask earnestly, beg," also (c. 1300) "pray to a god or saint," from Old French preier "to pray" (c.900, Modern French prier), from Vulgar Latin *precare (also source of Italian pregare), from Latin precari "ask earnestly, beg, entreat," from *prex (plural preces, genitive precis) "prayer, request, entreaty," from PIE root *prek- "to ask, request, entreat."
PREY
mid-13c., "animal hunted for food," also "that which is taken in war," from Old French preie "booty, animal taken in the chase" (mid-12c., Modern French proie), from Latin praeda "booty, plunder, game hunted," earlier praeheda, literally "something seized before,"
When looking at the words I present in the OP, they all have some deeper logical connection, rather than what natural language etymology would provide. I know it's pointless say, but it was a sage that in his roundabout way taught me this.
ENTROPY - Y PORT NE - Why port any 'souls' where useful energy is in ever shorter supply (entropy dealing with reincarnation)
PASTOR - ROT SAP
PRAY - PREY
SOLE - HEEL - HEAL - SOUL
BILL - B ILL - because we must pay them. (ultimately to whom?)
CASINO - C A SIN O
LANGUAGE - LAN GAUGE (LAN local area network of people, gauge)
HISTORY - HIS STORY
PARANOID - PA ANNOYED ('God' gets pretty f'cked off when you keep eating from the tree of knowledge - drugs)
PARANOYA - PA ANNOY YA (As above - but you may find months of its antagonism.)
CHEAT - C HEAT (burn for love)
RAPE - R APE (our ape)