Universe can't be infinite.
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I think I understand it far better than you given that any time you mention or USE it in an equation I can drive you to a contradiction.devans99 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:08 pm You don't understand infinity. Try this:
http://sites.middlebury.edu/fyse1229pis ... -infinite/
Every time you USE it, you give it MEANING. You make it ACTUAL
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It's not 'it' it's 'them'. Potential and actual infinity are completely different and you don't understand that.TimeSeeker wrote: ↑Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:14 pmI think I understand it far better than you given that any time you mention or USE it in an equation I can drive you to a contradiction.devans99 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:08 pm You don't understand infinity. Try this:
http://sites.middlebury.edu/fyse1229pis ... -infinite/
Every time you USE it, you give it MEANING.
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It is because they are NOT different is why I can contradict you every time you use infinity in your equations.
Every time you PARSE the symbol ∞ in your head you give it meaning.
"potential" vs "actual" is special pleading. Dualism!
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You have not managed to contradict me once and you can't stay on topic.
The universe is expanding so it cannot be infinite in space else there would be nowhere to expand to. Infinity is the problem: it's larger than any possible thing. Yet we require it to expand; implying it was not larger than any possible thing.
That's officially mad and impossible. Universe is therefore finite in space too.
The universe is expanding so it cannot be infinite in space else there would be nowhere to expand to. Infinity is the problem: it's larger than any possible thing. Yet we require it to expand; implying it was not larger than any possible thing.
That's officially mad and impossible. Universe is therefore finite in space too.
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You are so full of shit.
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Quite the opposite. I care about truth.
It's because you don't is why you have been doing apologetics on how to sneak in "=~" into the real numbers. Just so you can preserve the sanctity of infinity limits. If that's not the definition of dogma - then I don't know what is.
Theists everywhere
Re: Universe can't be infinite.
I am not a theist, I'm a deist:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism
That means God and Science in harmony. It's the way of the future.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism
That means God and Science in harmony. It's the way of the future.
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You are dogmatic either way.devans99 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:38 pm I am not a theist, I'm a deist:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism
That means God and Science in harmony. It's the way of the future.
I dislike dogmatists
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Re: Universe can't be infinite.
DOG_MA? AM GODTimeSeeker wrote: ↑Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:36 pm If that's not the definition of dogma - then I don't know what is.
Theists everywhere
Gnostics too.
This entity operates at the most finite binary level of 'matter' - from years of experience.
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Yes. I dislike gnostics and dogmatists.attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:39 pmDOG_MA? AM GODTimeSeeker wrote: ↑Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:36 pm If that's not the definition of dogma - then I don't know what is.
Theists everywhere
Gnostics too.
Same difference.
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You timeseek so quick you missed this 'bit':- This entity operates at the most finite binary level of 'matter' - from years of experience.TimeSeeker wrote: ↑Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:40 pmYes. I dislike gnostics and dogmatists.attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:39 pmDOG_MA? AM GODTimeSeeker wrote: ↑Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:36 pm If that's not the definition of dogma - then I don't know what is.
Theists everywhere
Gnostics too.
Same difference.
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I think we both subscribe to this religion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_theoryattofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:42 pm You timeseek so quick you missed this 'bit':- This entity operates at the most finite binary level of 'matter' - from years of experience.
Praise be to the Shannon-God!
Information and entropy!
Order and chaos!
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Sorry, i'm not that into emotis. But sure, I am not not your typical buy bull bashing suck down the eucharist and don't chew on Christ with your mouth open.TimeSeeker wrote: ↑Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:47 pmI think we both subscribe to this religion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_theoryattofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:42 pm You timeseek so quick you missed this 'bit':- This entity operates at the most finite binary level of 'matter' - from years of experience.
Praise be to the Shannon-God!
Information and entropy!
Order and chaos!
You may not have seen a post I have questioned you in within another thread. But, I have a comprehension that whatever the 3rd party intelligence is -
'God' if you will formed our reality, indeed the logic required for it, from the chaos of the early universe. Within that thread you questioned infinite regress, well, is there such a thing where logic stems from chaos? In other words, can we infinitely regress through chaos?