Please don't go confusing the reader with words like 'concept' 'perception', 'ideas', 'thought', to mean differents things, when in truth they are just different words for the same idea that is actually being pointed to here. Separating words that basically mean the same thing, to mean different things is confusing for the reader and unnecessary, it's really not very helpful...at best it bamboozles the seeking philosopher, cutting it off further and further from ever understanding what is being pointed to which is their SOURCE ..please keep it simple that a child could understand.
The idea (God)would not have arisen if there had been no pre-conceived idea of God in the first place. You have to pre-conceive an idea before it can manifest. That you are able to pre-conceive means that the idea has always existed, the idea is a discovery that's already in you, it's not out there outisde of you...outside of you are your inner projections aka creations...but you are not created, you are the uncreated creator.
Things, aka ilusions, are just images of yourself. The mirror of consciousness / awareness or what ever you want to call source doesn't question itself, it just is, but when it does seemingly question itself it will reflect the answer in the question. Where else could an answer come from but from the question?
I never once said or implied God was a thing, I think you are confused as to what is being pointed to here.
To deny an idea is to in the same moment create one, but a creation is a perception only, not a thing. You can uncreate a thing as you can create a thing... but you cannot uncreate the perceiver aka the source of that thing...aka an idea.
Perceptions are not things. Things are perceptions. That which is perceiving aka consciousness awareness.. is not a thing. This ''not a thing'' is perceived to perceive - it's energetically programmed to behave like that, it's also energetically programmed to believe in the perceived as it is perceiving it into existence, and belief in the perceived births it into existence...so all things are beliefs only.. so to speak. And this is called the MIND, aka duality, the world of opposites. The world of make-believe come true.
You simply cannot perceive the idea (god) and then deny the idea ever existing, it simply exists as a concept.
An idea once born sticks, the mind is nothing without it... but ultimately, the mind that sticks can unstick itself, the idea can be removed consciously just as easy as it is placed in the first place.
Consciousness being the place holder of all ideas. Consciousness cannot turn a perception into an object, there is no object separate from the perceiver. This is known as God...but God is not a thing, lets be clear about that, try not to twist others peoples capacity to crtically think about the true and real nature of being conscious.
Nonsense. You are the one trying to turn an idea into an objectifable thing in and of itself, not me.
What the heck is an idea anyway, unless it is perceived as a conceptualised knowledge known with meaning.
Note that any known knowledge is informing the nature of a concept to be illusory, in that it is not a thing in and of itself separate from it's conceiver ... while the perceiver of such knowledge is not illusory..as they are one and the same no thing...that has to be, if conception is ever to be known.
A square circle is knowledge known, there is no such thing as a concept known separate from the knower. The knower is not what it knows, it is what it doesn't know. It knows what it is because it knows what it's not. And that cannot be negated or refuted. You cannot negate your being and know it. All you know is being. And that's all that's ever known one with the knowing, you are that knowing, that can never not be here. You are never not here. This is God or what ever you want to call it, it goes by any other name as knowledge known.
Ideas exist in the perceivers mind only, they are not things in and of themselves. For a thing to be known, the opposite has to be also, the unknown. You are the unknown known. Aka the mind...you are even beyond the mind of duality...you are that in which the mind appears, you are the absolute right here and now always and forever...you have never not been here, you are never not here.
But this is knowledge KNOWN, knowledge informs the illusory nature of things, objects to exist separate from the knower. That which knows all things and objects is not the object or thing as they are conceived. However, there is the perception of things and objects, and that perceiver cannot be negated ..for who would negate this ONE? ..and that knowledge is wisdom, it is hidden in plain sight. This is God...or what ever you want to call it, it goes by any other name while remaining forever nameless... you cannot hold your 'named being' in your hand, because it does not exist outside of you, it's an idea in you...just as you cannot hold awareness or the light in your hand, it is already you, the mind wants to hold the idea of itself in it's hand, it looks outside itself for itself, it knocks on the door of perception and says let me in, never quite realising that when the door of perception opens up responding to it's own knocking, it sees that it wasn't on the outside knocking to come in, it was already in itself all along..