Before and after: the universe has everything?
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Before and after: the universe has everything?
It's said the universe has everything. If so how do you account for the nonexistence of before and after? And if they don't exist, then now doesn't exist either because now follows before which is needed to cause now (but before doesn't exist) and after doesn't exist since it's not caused by now which doesn't exist.
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Re: Before and after: the universe has everything?
Nonexistence cannot exist because that would violate the law of non contradiction
There has always been something because a state of absolute nothing is impossible
There has always been something because a state of absolute nothing is impossible
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Re: Before and after: the universe has everything?
Did the universe then exist before the Big Bang?surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:51 pm Nonexistence cannot exist because that would violate the law of non contradiction
There has always been something because a state of absolute nothing is impossible
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Re: Before and after: the universe has everything?
What existed before the Big Bang is not currently known at this point in time though
the event itself was simply the beginning of local cosmic expansion and nothing else
the event itself was simply the beginning of local cosmic expansion and nothing else
Re: Before and after: the universe has everything?
Our universe is just a tiny drop in a vast ocean.
Re: Before and after: the universe has everything?
Hogyaszongya:
If that's true, then what is a single human being? Or the Earth? Or the Solar system?
Once you start comparing delimeted (finite) amounts to infinite amounts, the analogy breaks down, because a vast ocean is not even a drop of water against infinity.
In fact, any finite expanse relates to the infinite as a dimensionless point relates to any three-d object of any size of non-zero dimensions.
Re: Before and after: the universe has everything?
In fact, off the centre of our own known universe, a bit to the left, but not too far, is a local mass which had no beginning of local cosmic expansion.surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:51 pm What existed before the Big Bang is not currently known at this point in time though
the event itself was simply the beginning of local cosmic expansion and nothing else
Phusicists are currently calculating if this mass is off centre of the geometrical centre,or of the point of gravity of our known universe.
One thing is for sure: we know not much about the unknown universe.
Re: Before and after: the universe has everything?
Unfortunately, the off-centre non-expanding local cosmic mass is part of the unknown part of the universe.
So sorry. Better luck next time.
Re: Before and after: the universe has everything?
YES!surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:51 pm Nonexistence cannot exist because that would violate the law of non contradiction
There has always been something because a state of absolute nothing is impossible
Re: Before and after: the universe has everything?
How do you suppose to find a link to what's unknown? Duh...
Facts? Are you saying I am quoting facts? Double duhh...
Re: Before and after: the universe has everything?
You first post implied that actual physicists are looking for this thing you've apparently just made up then.
The second post implied that they've found this center of mass to be outside our visible universe.
These statements suggest actual theories and findings, not unknown fiction.
Center of the universe is quite easy to point to actually, but it doesn't fit the description you put up here.