Ah yes, the challenge of the puny anterior cingulate gyrus and swollen right amygdala.
Somebody ought to market a cream or pill for that!
No, it's not.
Thank you for a demonstration of unreasonable responding.Walker wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:55 am#WalkAway etcGreta wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:07 amYes, the issue is when people are no longer responsive to reason. Once that happens, there is only conflict. You cannot reason with the seriously religious - not by their very principles. So the public conversation is descending into shouting matches because there is nothing else once reason is abandoned.artisticsolution wrote: ↑Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:16 amThe scary thing is conservatives used to hide their crazy. I used to think they were hypocrites because they seemed to act like holier than thou bible thumpers but their dark ugly side would come out once in awhile.
Now, that Trump has made it trendy, they can show their ugly side all the time. There is no good side left.
Gone is the day when they at least tried to follow the bibles verses. That's gone....terrifying if you ask me. People who have no moral compass and no bible to tell them right from wrong...there is no going back from here...
It is ironic that the more fervent the religious, the further they stray from the tenets of their religions. Jesus mostly spoke about helping the poor, the oppressed, the rejected and bullied.
However religious neocons have aligned with the Pharisees - focused on bleeding hearts, guns, snowflakes, permission of hate speech, feminists, queers, rag-heads, welfare bludgers and abortionists. Like the Pharisees, they are certain of their moral high ground while actually operating antithetically to their supposed creed.
Meanwhile, the religious ones who are actually doing good are comparatively moderate and relaxed about the religion itself, being more passionate about people's wellbeing than politicking.
Ironic.
Your points were addressed to AS.Greta wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:31 pmThank you for a demonstration of unreasonable responding.Walker wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:55 am#WalkAway etcGreta wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:07 am
Yes, the issue is when people are no longer responsive to reason. Once that happens, there is only conflict. You cannot reason with the seriously religious - not by their very principles. So the public conversation is descending into shouting matches because there is nothing else once reason is abandoned.
It is ironic that the more fervent the religious, the further they stray from the tenets of their religions. Jesus mostly spoke about helping the poor, the oppressed, the rejected and bullied.
However religious neocons have aligned with the Pharisees - focused on bleeding hearts, guns, snowflakes, permission of hate speech, feminists, queers, rag-heads, welfare bludgers and abortionists. Like the Pharisees, they are certain of their moral high ground while actually operating antithetically to their supposed creed.
Meanwhile, the religious ones who are actually doing good are comparatively moderate and relaxed about the religion itself, being more passionate about people's wellbeing than politicking.
Ironic.
Rather than acknowledging the points made, let alone addressing them, you obfuscate and try to shift the agenda.
It's okay to be more aligned with the Pharisees' approach than Jesus's - people hold all kinds of views. Still, you should admit that you see the story of Jesus as one about a bleeding heart leftist liberal troublemaker.
Honest folks are idiots then as new administrations inherit what the previous adminstration left them as economic indicators lag. Although you didn't say what indicators you were using.Walker wrote:…
Trump is doing a fine job as president.
All indicators are up.
Honest folks are impressed.
Apparently you have a complete inability to see or acknowledge anything beyond the extremes that serve you. It's all defined in ONE WAY for you... whatever it is. Can't be anything else but one, stupid, fucking way. And you don't see or care how fucking stupid that is.
All politics is hypocritical. The entire game is based on deception and hypocrisy is an essential political tool, one mastered to virtuoso standard by Trump.Walker wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:33 amYour points were addressed to AS.Greta wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:31 pmThank you for a demonstration of unreasonable responding.
Rather than acknowledging the points made, let alone addressing them, you obfuscate and try to shift the agenda.
It's okay to be more aligned with the Pharisees' approach than Jesus's - people hold all kinds of views. Still, you should admit that you see the story of Jesus as one about a bleeding heart leftist liberal troublemaker.
I didn’t want to trample her response.
I was merely offering you an opportunity to step away from theory and into reality for a moment, by reading straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak, some reasons why folks are fleeing the Left in the US.
Many of those folks say they're walking away because of the Left’s hypocrisy.
Well, the point that some people are a waste of breath has already been made, but you can only work with the material that presents itself.FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:29 pmThis discussion is a waste of time. If you want to have productive conversations with people whos viewpoints differ from yours, which I seem to recall was the point, most of the poeople posting here are not the correct interlocutors.
Walker is fairly typical; he just wants a bit of affirmation.FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:29 pmWalker is a fool who is not capable, and the people being dragged this way and that by him are too brittle.
Interesting! Describes exactly what we see in these discussions.uwot wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:41 amThey're on the case: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyioZODhKbE
It would nice now and then if the lights were on and comprehension was at home.
"Those who favour more controls of individuals are conservatives ..."Greta wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:34 am There is a constant push and pull between corporate and individual welfare in areas where they don't much intersect. Those who favour more controls of individuals are conservatives and those who favour more freedom for individuals are liberals. From that tussling comes the society we have at any given time as the pendulum swings one way and then another.
I know that in discussion I convincingly present one side of a dualistic view.Lacewing wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:32 amApparently you have a complete inability to see or acknowledge anything beyond the extremes that serve you. It's all defined in ONE WAY for you... whatever it is. Can't be anything else but one, stupid, fucking way. And you don't see or care how fucking stupid that is.